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response 450 of 512:
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Jun 6 22:05 UTC 2002 |
that'd be cool, thanks :)
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keesan
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response 451 of 512:
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Jun 7 01:29 UTC 2002 |
Considering how much safer Europe is than nearly any city in the states, it
is all relative and Amsterdam is probably a very nice place overall despite
a bit of crime.
Have a nice year there. Do you have jobs?
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jmsaul
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response 452 of 512:
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Jun 7 04:19 UTC 2002 |
I have two friends who have gotten mugged in Amsterdam -- one of them *twice*.
Neither has ever had any trouble in an American city, despite the fact that
these guys have hung out in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Washington DC.
(They didn't get mugged together; they don't even know each other.) I
wouldn't dismiss the issue with a platitude about how safe Europe is compared
to the nasty, evil US. Amsterdam has problems. Those problems don't stop
me from going there (I haven't gotten mugged yet ;-), but I think you're doing
oval a disservice by prating on about the relative danger of Europe and the
US.
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jp2
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response 453 of 512:
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Jun 7 04:27 UTC 2002 |
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clees
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response 454 of 512:
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Jun 7 06:32 UTC 2002 |
I can tell I had a migraine, yesterday.
Oval, I just wanted to warn you.
If you are used to NY, you can take Amsterdam.
Moving for me would be the States, and I can't see many possibilities
to achieve that. I haven't got a top nodge job and many openings on the
web restrict themselves explicitely to US residents.
So, I settle to next best thing: Amsterdam. It's like having family
members you at times don't care too much about. It's still family.
Amsterdam is part of me, hence my accent.
Oval, you can email me at sparhawk@tiscali.nl and for things about
Amsterdam. Off line I got more time to think things over. If you want<
could show you and your husband around a bit.
WTC? Duh? What's that? ;)
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response 455 of 512:
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Jun 7 07:00 UTC 2002 |
i know what you mean, clees. i love NY despite it's downfalls, and know i will
miss it when i leave. i am up late tonight learning how to pronounce dutch
words. http://www.sr.net/srnet/InfoSurinam/dutch.html is giving me a
thorough lesson on the difference between the oo oe ui - things like that. i
sound like a weirdo sitting here reading word by word, heh. and the g, ch is
hard, but i'm thinking of it like the french 'r'. dutch is a cool language.
anyway, thanks! i will definately drop you a line.
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russ
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response 456 of 512:
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Jun 7 13:06 UTC 2002 |
Re #451: Rates of crime in Europe are growing rapidly and many are
quite a bit greater than USA rates. Read into this what you will.
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clees
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response 457 of 512:
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Jun 7 13:09 UTC 2002 |
visit my home page: http://home-l2.tiscali.nl/~sparhawk/index.htm
it has got a language section. Proverbs, pronouns, gerunds, grammar and
stuff. Mostly to snicker about and learn a bit on the side.
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russ
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response 458 of 512:
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Jun 7 13:09 UTC 2002 |
IWLTA that the RISKS digest volume 22 number 11 is in /a/r/u/russ/public.
I haven't got a review for you, but it's full of zingers as always.
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janc
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response 459 of 512:
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Jun 9 00:56 UTC 2002 |
I think in the older part of Amsterdam, if you lock up your old
worthless bike, it will be stolen, riden two blocks, and then be thrown
into a canal. I once watched a barge with a big claw arm cleaning the
canals, scooping out clawload after clawload of bicycles. I figured
that instread of buying a bicycle, you should get a rope with a
grappling hook. If you need to go somewhere, throw the hook into a
canal, fish out a bicycle, ride it to wherever you need to go, and
throw it back.
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keesan
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response 460 of 512:
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Jun 9 02:53 UTC 2002 |
There is a kid or kids in my neighborhood apparently riding unlocked bikes
a few blocks and abandoning them. They got one off a neighbors porch (yellow)
and a few weeks later left a red one nearby, then a blue one. Was it not
Amsterdam that experimented with free white bikes but they were all stolen?
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jmsaul
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response 461 of 512:
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Jun 9 03:12 UTC 2002 |
I dunno, but I remember an experiment like that in Ann Arbor in the early-mid
80s with green bikes. It didn't last very long.
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response 462 of 512:
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Jun 9 05:28 UTC 2002 |
lol@459
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clees
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response 463 of 512:
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Jun 9 20:37 UTC 2002 |
They were all stolen.
The plan was invented by Amsterdam hippy Provo Roel van Duyn (as in
provocation).
Of course the bikes were stolen. What was he thinking?
In the eighties he came up with a 'white cars' plan. Similar, but with
electrical cars. I didn't work either.
He also came up with the idea of people growing little gardens on the
rooftops of their cars in order to 'green' the city.
Oval, what Janc claimes seems pretty sensible. It is true. You'd be
amazed how many bikes they dig up with every clean up.
What most people don't know is that the canals are pretty shallow, but
deep enough to be able to drown in them. The banks are quite hogh, so
getting out might be a problem.
Another thing you'd be amazed about is that many bikes got locks worth
many more times than the actual bike.
I can tell you that it can be a nuisance to have your bike stolen and
very similar to NY, the police isn't likely to take any action, unless
you have it registered, and have the theft stolen and they by accident
run into it. But that's a long shot.
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jp2
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response 464 of 512:
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Jun 9 20:47 UTC 2002 |
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response 465 of 512:
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Jun 10 03:10 UTC 2002 |
ya i've been thinking my security system will be worth quite a bit more than
my bike. what i hate is when they just take a piece of your bike. especially
when it's a p.o.s. i used to have an old red schwinn that i never rode so that
it wouldn't get stolen. i ended up giving it to a friend who had a garage.
anyway i'll be wandering around looking for a home and work and meeting people
for the first few weeks - so i'll hold off on the bike for a bit. i think i'll
depart on the 12th of july..
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eskarina
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response 466 of 512:
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Jun 10 17:01 UTC 2002 |
Bike theft is random. People have stolen 2 bikes from our house in the past
week.
On the other side, in the middle of last week, someone abandoned a bike
outside of McDonalds. We've left it there, some people have ridden it home,
but no one seems to really want to keep it. Its not that bad a bike, either.
If I didn't already have a nice bike I'd probably take it.
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bhelliom
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response 467 of 512:
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Jun 10 17:22 UTC 2002 |
Is there a registration? Perhaps the owner is looking for it, or
doesn't even know it's missing yet.
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eskarina
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response 468 of 512:
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Jun 10 17:30 UTC 2002 |
nope, no registration, I checked today.
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twinkie
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response 469 of 512:
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Jun 10 17:42 UTC 2002 |
What is the best way to fully secure a bike? It's not a huge problem for me
in South Lyon, but I imagine it would be in Chicago. I'm guessing I could
chain the tires to the frame, and the frame to something secure...but my seat
has a quick-release, and I'd really rather not have to go replacing a $70 seat
and $80 post every time I leave my bike.
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orinoco
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response 470 of 512:
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Jun 10 18:20 UTC 2002 |
I know people who detatch their seat and take it with them whenever they leave
their bike.
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twinkie
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response 471 of 512:
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Jun 10 18:34 UTC 2002 |
I figured that's what a lot of people do, but it seems rather cumbersome.
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drew
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response 472 of 512:
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Jun 10 20:23 UTC 2002 |
Re #469:
I thought you preferred riding with the seat removed.
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response 473 of 512:
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Jun 10 21:33 UTC 2002 |
only when he's feelin kinky.
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keesan
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response 474 of 512:
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Jun 10 23:40 UTC 2002 |
I saw one bike with a saddle tether (a small cable around the saddle and
frame). A simpler suggestion would be to replace the quick-release bolt with
a slow-release bolt (that needs tools to remove it), or to get a second,
junker, bike, for occasions when you will leave it unattended outside. We
can supply you with one if you live near us.
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