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md
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response 44 of 122:
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Dec 18 01:43 UTC 1998 |
This is drifty, but I just found out that Margaret Hamilton was
in *two* of the three Copland-scored movies mentioned above.
(She wasn't in Something Wild, not surprisingly.) She looked
a little bit like Aaron Copland. Hmmm....
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remmers
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response 45 of 122:
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Dec 18 13:07 UTC 1998 |
Add Ennio Morricone to my list of favorite film composers. He did
the score for Sergio Leone's "Once Upon a Time in the West" and
other spaghetti westerns. More recently he's been working with
David Lynch, most notably the wonderful music for the "Twin Peaks"
TV series.
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remmers
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response 46 of 122:
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Dec 18 21:39 UTC 1998 |
Oops, faulty memory again - I'm merging two different people into one.
The "Twin Peaks" composer isn't Morricone, it's Angelo Badelemati
(spelling probably mangled). So count both of those dudes as among my
favorites.
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mcnally
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response 47 of 122:
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Dec 18 23:40 UTC 1998 |
Badalamenti, I think..
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lumen
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response 48 of 122:
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Dec 19 04:57 UTC 1998 |
Don't forget to check out the TV/movie soundtracks item while you're on this
thread.
Nino Rota is nice. I learned "Love Theme From The Godfather" for classical
guitar and fell in love with it before I heard the actual recording, which
features a mandolin instrumentation. A mandolin has to be played
differently-- the strings fade away quickly when strummed or plucked, and
therefore must be played repeatedly to compensate for lack of reverb. So the
piece had a slightly different flavor on a classical guitar-- I have to use
an occasional vibrato, especially on long notes, instead of the trill-like
manner in which the mandolin is played. It's still nice.
Speaking of classical guitars and classical music and rock n' roll, the
former leader of the band Deep Purple plays classical guitar now (but no
lute.)
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davel
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response 49 of 122:
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Dec 19 12:04 UTC 1998 |
(One of Deep Purple's early albums had rock versions of parts of Tchaikovsky's
Romeo & Juliet and of a Beethoven symphony.)
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cyklone
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response 50 of 122:
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Dec 19 14:35 UTC 1998 |
Ritchie Blackmore was into classical music even during Deep Purple's early
days. I remember reading an interview in which he pointed out that one of the
chord progressions used in a DP song was lifted from Bach.
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tpryan
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response 51 of 122:
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Dec 19 19:16 UTC 1998 |
re 49: ?"Music for two unfreindly groups of instruments"?
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jmm
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response 52 of 122:
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Dec 20 23:21 UTC 1998 |
Try Loreena McKennet. Contemporary folk, magical stuff. I got hooked on her
background music for "The Burning Times." She has a new tape out. Canadian,
based in Stratford.
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mcnally
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response 53 of 122:
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Dec 21 04:43 UTC 1998 |
A lot of people seem to like her but at least the singles I've heard
have really turned me off. Judging by the bland magicky-fantasy lyrics
I've heard I expect her to start singing about hobbits at any minute..
Given that that's my big reservation, should I steer clear or have I
formed an incorrect impression based on the few songs one might hear
on the radio (in particular the dance re-mix of "The Mummer's Dance",
which gets played most often, really turns me off (not necessarily the
music or vocals but mostly the lyrics, though the music doesn't do much
for me either..)
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katie
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response 54 of 122:
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Dec 21 06:04 UTC 1998 |
Her traditional music is good.
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anderyn
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response 55 of 122:
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Dec 21 13:32 UTC 1998 |
Yah, her traditional music is good, and I rather like her version
of the "Highwayman". She does tend to get off into a Celtic fae mood
a bit often, but on the other hand, I happen to *like* Celtic fae stuff
when I'm in the mood for it, and her music is just right for those
moods, being not too New Age-y and mushy.
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remmers
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response 56 of 122:
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Dec 21 17:06 UTC 1998 |
Sindi specifically mentioned recently-composed music in #0, so
I've been holding off bringing up ragtime, most of which was
written between 1895 and 1920. Nonetheless, there is contemporary
music in the ragtime style that a classical music lover might
enjoy, e.g. the compositions of William Bolcolm, Glenn Jenks,
Frank French, Peter Lundberg, Bob Milne, and others.
I'll provide more detail later when I have more time, if there's
interest.
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steve
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response 57 of 122:
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Dec 27 04:23 UTC 1998 |
Sindi, great item. I'm just coming to the music conference finally,
after not having been able to make the time for a while.
The following are all things I've given to friends who are classical
music people who've frowned on other forms of music. Not all liked
all the things I loaned out, but at least I've never received any
gagging motions from them upon getting the CD's back.
For jazz, I'd say look at Jean Luc Ponty, from Canada. He is still
making music today, and has been for about 20 years now, I think. A
german group which has disbanded is Passport, headed by Klaus
Doldinger. Very good stuff there.
For rock, listen to the early music of Yes. Their offerings from
the 70's such as "Going for the One", "Fragile" and "Tormato" are
wonderful. They are my all time favorite 'rock' music, but that
doesn't do them justice. Among Yes fanatics there is a strong
coorelation with a liking of classical, myself included.
Also called Rock, but more like folk are three albumns by Jethro
Tull. Called "Songs from the Wood", "Heavy horses" and the last
one whose title escapes me but talks of north sea oil. I can only
think that Ian Anderson meant to do this, which was a trilogy of
songs about nature, man/nature, and man/technology. The first two
even my mother loves--Ian writes beautifully, and I have used the
song "Velvet Green" to shut up more than one music snob who said
that no popular music could be 'good'.
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cloud
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response 58 of 122:
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Dec 27 17:10 UTC 1998 |
I keep meaning to get something by "Yes," I'll keep an eye out. Would you
recomend any one album over another? Any I should steer clear of?
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steve
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response 59 of 122:
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Dec 27 18:35 UTC 1998 |
I think their later works (Talk, 90125, Big Generator coming to mind)
aren't as good as the odler ones. If there was one specific CD to get...
Hmm... I'd say either Going for the One or Fragile. (thats hard to
think of, just one of them to get)
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keesan
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response 60 of 122:
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Dec 27 19:25 UTC 1998 |
Thanks STeve, I figured if people who did not think they liked classical music
could try to be broad-minded about it, I should be willing to reciprocate.
I will try the library and Borders again with more suggestions.
(The Finnish and Karelian folk music were not something I would want to hear
frequently, maybe okay for dancing to in very cold weather).
Thanks for letting me know whether to look for a performer or a group or a
particular piece instead of trying all three categories.
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steve
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Dec 27 21:09 UTC 1998 |
Yes, it's frustrating, being told that you might like Albainin music
and then not get any more pointers.
Another two rock groups which might bear some listening to are Emerson
Lake and Palmer (they did a version of Pictures at an Exibition), and the
far more obsure group Camel (I belive the title 'snowgoose' comes to mind).
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keesan
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response 62 of 122:
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Dec 28 00:17 UTC 1998 |
Are these all vocal? I tend to listen to music while translating and get too
distracted if there are words.
Other people looking for good non-classical music should also feel free
to ask for something specific in this item. I meant it to be of general
relevance.
I am wondering if the sorts of people who would have written good
classical music in previous centuries are steering away from a genre that is
not very attunedd to public taste any more, and composing in other genres.
Such as musicals and movies.
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steve
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response 63 of 122:
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Dec 28 00:36 UTC 1998 |
The Ponty and Passport (jazz) are non-vocal but all the rock is vocal.
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cloud
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response 64 of 122:
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Dec 29 01:20 UTC 1998 |
All rock is _not_ vocal. I'll admit that I have yet to come a across a band
which has _no_ vocal, but that certainly doesn't mean that it's all vocal.
Many of my favorite bands have cut instrumental tracks, some of them, such
as Porcupine Tree, have more instrumental tracks than vocal!
<'Cloud smooths his bristles>
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steve
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response 65 of 122:
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Dec 29 02:45 UTC 1998 |
Sorry to have helped raise 'em. You are right of course, but there
isn't much rock that is even 10% non-vocal, I don't think.
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orinoco
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response 66 of 122:
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Dec 29 05:25 UTC 1998 |
Non-vocal rock:
the Steve Morse Band, one of my favorites, is definitely rock and definitely
non-vocal.
Adrian Belew has also made at least one non-vocal album, _Desire Caught by
the Tail_ - or so I've heard, never having had a chance to listen to the whole
thing.
And, if you're willing to accept a wider definition of what counts as 'rock',
I'll add Ashley McIsaac (rock-inflected Celtic), the California Guitar Trio
(like the name says, three guitarists), and Poignant Plecostomus (local
jazz-rock band).
I'll admit I'm reaching here, but I'm sure there are more than these few...
Oh, and Medeski, Martin, and Wood - another jazz-rock band, but more rock than
jazz to my ears.
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cloud
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response 67 of 122:
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Dec 29 16:44 UTC 1998 |
I'd count Ashley McIsaac as rock--at least his first album seems to be.
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keesan
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response 68 of 122:
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Dec 29 16:53 UTC 1998 |
How many kinds of rock are there? What do they have in common? How do they
differ from other kinds of music (or are the edges of categories fuzzy)?
I have heard a bit of techno music, which was nonvocalic. It was very well
done, complex rhythm but I don't recall any melody.
Are some kinds of rock intended to be louder than others? Is rock sort
of a catchall term for non-classical non-jazz now? How is rock different from
pop?
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