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tod
response 44 of 52: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 00:00 UTC 2003

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keesan
response 45 of 52: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 02:50 UTC 2003

You can either choose text ads or set Opera not to automatically display
images (at which point you don't see any banner ad at all).  In Opera 6 you
could not get rid of the graphical ad banner by setting it to 'no images' but
in 7 you can.  Or you can hit F11 for full-screen without any ad banner, or
bars, or menus.  You can also remove the icons from all the bars, and remove
most of the bars, and get 80% of the page usable even at 640 (as opposed to
50% before you tinker with it).  You can run opera in monochrome (but it won't
display any images if you do).  
mdw
response 46 of 52: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 03:13 UTC 2003

jp2 is absolutely correct there's a non-zero security risk in what aruba
is doing.  There is also a security risk for using a telephone,
receiving US mail, and using the bathroom.  Most of us accept much
greater risks such as driving an automobile, picking change up off the
sidewalk, or eating food prepared by total strangers.  Other familiar
risks many of us are willing to assume include sleeping, physical
intimacy with people who are statistically more likely than total
strangers to kill us, and oral consumption of ethanol for recreational
purposes.  I submit that sharing trivial identity data with aruba is
much safer than most if not all of these other risks.
naftee
response 47 of 52: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 04:37 UTC 2003

jp2 and mark: signs of the time.
willcome
response 48 of 52: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 16:25 UTC 2003

46: you don't think we should do things to reduce risk where possible and
reasonable?
mdw
response 49 of 52: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 08:40 UTC 2003

I believe you may be confused about "risk" and "reasonable".  If Mark
were to do things entirely using paper & pencil, then there'd be an
increased risk of data processing errors.  If he were to do things using
a computer that weren't capable of going online, then there would remain
a risk of transcription errors.  Either of these solutions involves
increased hassle and nuisance for him, with decreased value to grex - if
we were to insist he turn his brain off, he might reasonably conclude we
don't need him as treasurer and resign.  That would definitely lead to
bad things on grex.  The position of treasurer on grex is critical to
the smooth running of things, and Aruba has been one of our best and
most patient treasurers ever.  It's unlikely his successor would be
nearly as good, especially if we insist on hobbling our treasurer.

Right now, while windows 98 is hardly ideal, it's old & stupid enough to
be "acceptable".  If Mark were to upgrade to XP, we'd have a problem,
but I think Mark is at least as eager as we all are to not go there.
Someday, in the future, Mark probably will want to upgrade, and we'll
have to negotiate as to what happens then.  There are lots of
possibilities today, and surely there will only be more in the future.
willcome
response 50 of 52: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 15:17 UTC 2003

I'm not sure why Grex submits to being held by the balls by a whimful hand.
gull
response 51 of 52: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 16:02 UTC 2003

Re resp:42: Must be 7.23 that I upgraded to, then.

Re resp:44: True.  I put up with the banner because Opera is the only 
browser that isn't unacceptably sluggish on my 233 MHz Pentium laptop.  
I'm not sure what Opera is doing right that Mozilla/Firebird did wrong, 
but there's a big difference.
jesuit
response 52 of 52: Mark Unseen   May 17 02:14 UTC 2006

TROGG IS DAVID BLAINE
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