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Grex > Coop9 > #9: A Scheme to Partition Grex |  |
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janc
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response 43 of 121:
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Nov 25 18:33 UTC 1996 |
I don't like Gridlock too much. Gridly would be more affectionate.
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tsty
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response 44 of 121:
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Nov 25 18:38 UTC 1996 |
.. fron grep to egrep ... from grex to egrex ... the egress for email.
and when it is realllllly fassssssssst .... fgrex
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kerouac
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response 45 of 121:
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Nov 25 18:56 UTC 1996 |
or it could be simply "grex2".."grex2.cyberspace.org" Kinda
boring but it would be a way of simplifying things.
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albaugh
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response 46 of 121:
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Nov 25 20:05 UTC 1996 |
As a grex member, I would be seriously annoyed if I couldn't telnet from grex
to the mail machine. I want to be able to do a variety of things with
"one-stop shopping", such as being able to !mail from within picospan. If
I had to !telnet from within picospan, then mail, that would be OK, But if
I had to exit picospan, logoff grex, login to mail-machine, etc., *that*
would be lousy...
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albaugh
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response 47 of 121:
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Nov 25 20:28 UTC 1996 |
One other thing: With separate machines, would users get to have a common
personal disk storage area across machines? Or would they be separate?
The latter would be painful...
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dang
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response 48 of 121:
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Nov 25 21:17 UTC 1996 |
I would guess that home directories would be in common on both machines, sort
of like the UM. In that vein, UM uses IMAP clients, which would defeat the
purpose of the seperation, because the CPU/memory hog of the mailer (Pine is
the primary IMAP mailer) would still be on grex, and the link flood of mail
going over the link would still go through the grex link. Question: Would
it be possible to have the router send information to the origional off site
source of the login, rather than through grex if someone is telnetted from
grex? This would get rid of some of the link drain on grex. You would still
have the CPU and link drain, tho.
This item is linked to coop 9
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janc
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response 49 of 121:
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Nov 26 05:24 UTC 1996 |
Probably directories would be separate. To make them common requires NFS,
and NFS apparantly isn't very secure.
(Note that security questions for Grex and organizations like universities
often work out differently. Most places would consider anything that let
strangers log into their machines a terrible security hole. We consider
"newuser" a feature. But on the other hand, most places know who their users
are and are less worried than Grex is about what people can do once are on
the system. I don't know the details of the problems with NFS, but there are
reasons why things that other places consider reasonably OK can be more
serious concerns on Grex.)
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popcorn
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response 50 of 121:
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Nov 26 07:31 UTC 1996 |
(I like the name "gridlock". I think "mail", "edna", "grind", etc. are okay.
And I vehemently object to calling it "valerie".)
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void
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response 51 of 121:
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Nov 26 11:17 UTC 1996 |
(could we maybe call it gertrude?)
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davel
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response 52 of 121:
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Nov 26 11:19 UTC 1996 |
Hey, TS's suggestion of egrex is pretty neat! But "valerie" would do as
a close second ...
8-{)}
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popcorn
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response 53 of 121:
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Nov 26 16:11 UTC 1996 |
(No no no no no.)
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kerouac
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response 54 of 121:
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Nov 26 16:41 UTC 1996 |
yeah, call it "Val" for short...Val.cyberspace.org
Or if a masculinename is preferred could call it
Steve, after all the steves around here.
Besides, with all the work he's done in the past to deal
with grex's email flow, it would be only right to name the email computer
after Steve Andre.
Steve.cyberspace.org...hmm
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albaugh
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response 55 of 121:
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Nov 26 17:51 UTC 1996 |
So, if I get a piece of e-mail suitable for picospan, I must save it to the
mail-machine, ftp it to grex, go to grex, and then bbs & :r ?
Well, I did say that I would be willing to suffer less convenient e-mail in
favor of enhanced bbs'ing... :-)
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janc
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response 56 of 121:
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Nov 26 22:12 UTC 1996 |
Yup, that's about it. It's not something people do so very often though.
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robh
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response 57 of 121:
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Nov 26 22:28 UTC 1996 |
I dunno, I've done that several times myself. I'd be willing to
"suffer" the FTP session, though.
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ajax
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response 58 of 121:
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Nov 27 05:43 UTC 1996 |
I occasionally post e-mail or Usenet stuff in Picospan, or vice
versa, but I generally store the text on my local hard drive or in
a "copy/paste" buffer to transfer it. Some people would probably
prefer that to the ftp method.
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nestene
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response 59 of 121:
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Nov 27 13:36 UTC 1996 |
Would it be possible to set up some very simple utility that would allow
any user of valerie (the machine) to transfer a file to their directory
on grex? Something like:
grexit okbomb.txt ~/etc
to send okbomb.txt to my etc directory, perhaps with a default of ~ for
the target?
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scott
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response 60 of 121:
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Nov 27 17:03 UTC 1996 |
(I don't like the idea of naming a machine "valerie" or "steve" either. Let's
go back to "Edna", OK?)
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robh
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response 61 of 121:
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Nov 27 20:01 UTC 1996 |
Personally, I'd have no problem naming a machine after an important
Grex personage - if they were dead. Since we have no dead Valeries
or Steves just yet, I'd be really uncomfortable with doing so now.
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kerouac
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response 62 of 121:
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Nov 27 20:30 UTC 1996 |
could call it mlady then, after the late mlady. She was a nice
person, worthy of a memorial I spose.
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kerouac
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response 63 of 121:
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Nov 27 20:55 UTC 1996 |
But you know, Michael Jordan plays ball in Chicago in a stadium
that has a statue of him in the entrance and has his jersey retired.
So I think living people can have memorials.
Calling it "Val" is as sensible as calling it "Edna"...grex has
probably had users called "Edna".
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n8nxf
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response 64 of 121:
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Nov 27 21:29 UTC 1996 |
THere is a login val too.
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davel
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response 65 of 121:
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Nov 27 21:52 UTC 1996 |
<dave ducks, looks for more shrapnel flying, & hopes no one actually thought
he was serious>
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dang
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response 66 of 121:
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Nov 27 21:59 UTC 1996 |
Valerie has asked that we don't call it valerie. I would think that should
end it right there.
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robh
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response 67 of 121:
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Nov 28 01:55 UTC 1996 |
Re 63 - Don't get me started on Michael Jordan. I still think
it's inappropriate to do living memorials, it's just my personal
opinion.
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