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marcvh
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response 43 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:18 UTC 2006 |
Being Jewish in Canada would be OK.
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twenex
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response 44 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:19 UTC 2006 |
Or, indeed, Europe.
Too much violence in Israel to feel safe there, as a Jew or otherwise.
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bhelliom
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response 45 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:22 UTC 2006 |
I'm a black woman, tod. I can hardly separate the two. Having said
that, no, I'd have less equality in Europe, save perhaps the U.K.
Twenex, which ethnic minority group do you belong to?
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naftee
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response 46 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:23 UTC 2006 |
i think the jews in MOntreal do quite fine !
but uh; i think in toronto it's a slightly better atmosphere
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twenex
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response 47 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:24 UTC 2006 |
Re: #45. Jewish.
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klg
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response 48 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:25 UTC 2006 |
Oh, yeah??? How would you know, VH??
My group gave money to construct a building at a Canadian Jewish camp.
They were given an extraordinarily hard time by the authorities in
meeting the various construction rules and regulations. It wasn't like
they were building in a city or town.
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twenex
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response 49 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:25 UTC 2006 |
Re: #47. Not that I see the relevance of the question.
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mcnally
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response 50 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:27 UTC 2006 |
re #37: I think it's actually pretty unlikely that control of the
House of Representatives will fall to the Democrats after the 2006
elections -- the system has become so rigged through years of
redistricting that not that many seats are at serious risk.
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marcvh
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response 51 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:27 UTC 2006 |
Somehow I'm not surprised that you would be involved with a group seeking
to put Jewish people in a camp.
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bhelliom
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response 52 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:29 UTC 2006 |
resp:49 - It is relevant. You said you would rather be an ethnic
minority in Europe than in the US. It would have been rather laughable
for you to say what a minority should or should not prefer if you
weren't one yourself.
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nharmon
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response 53 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:31 UTC 2006 |
This response has been erased.
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nharmon
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response 54 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:31 UTC 2006 |
#51 is a low blow.
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bhelliom
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response 55 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:31 UTC 2006 |
Honestly, I think the main difference when it comes to race between
Europe and the US is how the concept of racism and race relations are
approached. Americans *seem* more up front about their prejudices for
the most part.
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naftee
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response 56 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:37 UTC 2006 |
you're a black chick, sylvia ?
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klg
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response 57 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:45 UTC 2006 |
(54: You would expect something intelligent from vh??)
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twenex
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response 58 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:47 UTC 2006 |
Re: #52. Why? You seem to be suggesting that, say, not being black blinds me
to the fact that black people on both continents are underprivileged. I find
that extremely offensive and racist and, if that's an example of you being
"more up front about your prejudices," then speaking as a European, I'd much
prefer you to act like one.
As a sidenote, I really can't understand the modern attitude to minorities and
the underprivileged, insofar as it seems to tolerate no prejudice from the
majority towards the minorities (which is good), but almost ENCOURAGES
prejudices from the minorities towards the minority. NOT helpful.
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twenex
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response 59 of 186:
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Jan 18 20:47 UTC 2006 |
(57: Well, it's more likely than something intelligent from you.)
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bhelliom
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response 60 of 186:
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Jan 18 21:00 UTC 2006 |
resp:58 - Jesus. What you're hearing is not what I'm saying at all.
Don't put words in my mouth. I said "minority" not "black". I think we
can all agree that black people aren't the only minorities in Europe or
the US. I believe Jews to have the same minority status as blacks do,
or should. What I said, clearly, was that not being an ethnic minority
and making that statement would be laughable.
resp:56 Yes, I am.
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twenex
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response 61 of 186:
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Jan 18 21:02 UTC 2006 |
That was an example. Maybe I should have said, "You seem to be saying that
not being a minority blinds me to the fact that minorities are
underprivileged..."
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twenex
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response 62 of 186:
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Jan 18 21:03 UTC 2006 |
...which was the original intent.
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marcvh
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response 63 of 186:
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Jan 18 21:14 UTC 2006 |
I'll freely acknowledge it was a cheap shot, but the setup was just way
too obvious to ignore.
Churches face zoning headaches all the time here in the US. A typical
case would be a group wanting to build a mega-church in a semi-rural
area near denser suburbs, but the county fighting the effort because it
doesn't meet the development guidelines, or because the roads and sewer
system and other infrastructure in the area is insufficient to handle
the load, or some other reason. Some are quick to cry religious
discrimination when this happens.
It's hardly surprising that something similar could happen in Canada,
and it doesn't constitute terribly compelling evidence that Canadian
society oppresses Jews. As far as Jewish population ratios go Canada
is roughly tied with Russia and France for 3rd place.
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jep
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response 64 of 186:
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Jan 18 21:40 UTC 2006 |
re resp:50: You write as if gerrymandering is something new. Seats for
the House of Representatives have been as fixed as possible for longer
than you or I have been around. Changes in the majority are rare but
still possible, and it is possible there will be substantial changes
this year.
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scholar
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response 65 of 186:
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Jan 18 23:14 UTC 2006 |
Re. 47: That's NOT your ethnicity.
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mcnally
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response 66 of 186:
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Jan 18 23:29 UTC 2006 |
re #64:
> You write as if gerrymandering is something new.
No, actually, I don't. I think it's clear from my response that
the process has been going on for years and years, through many
election cycles.
All I meant to express through #50 is that the realities of our
current districting make it very unlikely that anything less than
a colossal shift in public opinion will much alter the current
makeup of the House.
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jep
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response 67 of 186:
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Jan 18 23:36 UTC 2006 |
Oh. Well, I agree with that. I think it's possible such a shift is
occurring, though.
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