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debra
response 42 of 89: Mark Unseen   Sep 26 14:19 UTC 1994

o.k., I'm o.k. now...I'm new at this, so thank for your patience.
anyway, Babar dresses and acts like a human (Westerner) so the 
other elephants crown him king.  Then he goes on to build
"Celesteville"--with little bungalows in little straight rows
(ala the Europeans in their colonies in Africa, India, etc.)
So was Laurent de Brunhoff pro or anti imperialist?  These are
things I think about while nursing my baby, making lasagne, etc.
Good stuff, this history, any thoughts from any of you out there?
rcurl
response 43 of 89: Mark Unseen   Sep 26 14:37 UTC 1994

I didn't read any cynicism or sarcasm into the stories, so I'd have
to take the stories at face value, but not necessarily "imperialism".
Why can't Babar just learn other ways, and implement them? No one
was forcing him to (as I recall). [By the way, have you sorted out
how to respond to a "talk" when you're in the middle of something?]
lsee
response 44 of 89: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 04:47 UTC 1995

I would like to discuss Civil War history? Is there anyone else?
mwarner
response 45 of 89: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 05:00 UTC 1995

You should enter an item.  The last book about the civil war I read was
called "Lincoln at Gettysburg", a detailed description of the cultural
and personal foundations of the Gettysburg address. 
carson
response 46 of 89: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 08:09 UTC 1995

The Civil War fascinated me in grade school. I'm not nearly as up on it
right now, but I wouldn't mind trying.

oh, lsee, if you don't mind my asking: why are you so eager to 
discuss the Civil War, of all things?
lsee
response 47 of 89: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 05:06 UTC 1995

Carson and Mike-I am a Civil WAr reenactor and am interested in seing if there
are others out there who do this thing. Have some esp. experience i n the
field.. (literally). Interested in continuing--Civil War history--all
fields--let's give it a go.
remmers
response 48 of 89: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 11:03 UTC 1995

The way to give it a go is to enter an item about it.  Type "enter" at
the Ok prompt.
lsee
response 49 of 89: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 04:33 UTC 1995

will do--thanks
groble
response 50 of 89: Mark Unseen   Mar 24 06:41 UTC 1995

   re:Babar musing:  Edward Said would *love* your observation.  John M
   MacKenzie would love it more.  What's the publication date on those books?
   It could tell you a lot about it.  The author may or may not have been 
   pro- or anti-imperialist, but imperialism still shapes the views that
   emerge in a book, even a children's book (MacKenzie would posit:  
   *especially* in a children's book!)

volt
response 51 of 89: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 03:52 UTC 1995

I sugest for anyone interested in the imperial roman empire the book 
"The First Man In Rome" it is a master piece of literature.
rcurl
response 52 of 89: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 06:07 UTC 1995

I would add a recommendation of Gibbons' _Decline and Fall of the
Roman Empire_, even if from an earlier scholarship. 
bischof
response 53 of 89: Mark Unseen   May 6 19:26 UTC 1995

I'm currently working on my master's in German literature, but my
thesis has a lot to do with how accurately some documentary works
portray historical events (more specifically, what the Church did
or did not do during the Third Reich).  Sound like an interesting topic
to anyone?
mwarner
response 54 of 89: Mark Unseen   May 7 01:41 UTC 1995

Specifically that topic:  Yes it sounds interesting.  Also interesting
is the insight you may have into the different influences on the way
history is recorded in general gained through your work.  I think there
will always be a significant difference between a compressed, or
comprehensive, history and the facts as gained through detailed study of a
certain event or set of circumstances.  I've learned that a final "truth"
or ultimate telling of a history is an illusory goal, but the insights
gained in the consideration of the fine details of history are well worth
their pursuit.   
baldar
response 55 of 89: Mark Unseen   May 19 17:15 UTC 1995

For anyone interested in Imperial Rome, but does not want something too heavy,
try _I, Claudius_, or _Claudius the God_ by Robert Graves.  They are both
fiction, but they are well researched, and the give a good impression of what
the times were like.
kerouac
response 56 of 89: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 21:57 UTC 1995

  Is anyone interested in this conf anymore? I was a history major in
school as well and I think the number of historical topics, such as
the debate over the atomic bomb, belie the current condition of this
conf.   I'd love to see this conf become active again.  Maybe it
just needs a jump-start!
rcurl
response 57 of 89: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 22:01 UTC 1995

OK. Go ahead, and plug it in and throw the switch!
remmers
response 58 of 89: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 12:39 UTC 1995

  Right--the way to revive a slow conference is to start entering
  stuff in it.

rcurl
response 59 of 89: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 20:40 UTC 1995

Like this: someday it will be history.
anne
response 60 of 89: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 06:55 UTC 1995

Kerouac- what area of history did you study?  (I'm thinking that
there was one area that interested you more then others...)

kerouac
response 61 of 89: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 16:11 UTC 1995

  My particular area was contemporary american history.  I did my
senior thesis on certain elements of the watergate scandal.  What
area did you think interested me?
srw
response 62 of 89: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 02:58 UTC 1995

My mind recognizes Watergate as history, but my heart wants to think of
"history" as that which happened before I was born, like the
Battle of Bull Run.
anne
response 63 of 89: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 17:38 UTC 1995

Kerouac- I guess I had better explain myself a little clearer.  I was 
trying to say that because history is such a huge subject- people
generally study one area in particular.  I wasn't saying that I had an
area in mind tha tI thought you studied. :)

sreedhar
response 64 of 89: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 21:11 UTC 1998

exit
mrmat
response 65 of 89: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 03:46 UTC 1998

Hi to anyone still interested in this conference. I'm interested in 
Military History in general, like the Civil War, WWI, WW2. Political history
is also interesting, past Presidential Elections.
Here's something new, what do people think of the recently released video of
the Zapruder film?  Has anyone seen it yet?  Would you buy it? Should everyone
have a copy in their video collection? 
anne
response 66 of 89: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 18:27 UTC 1998

I'm interested in history (hell, I have a BA in it) but I'm not into
Military history. :( IU'm more into social. (We're talking Medieval
and Renassaince Europe)

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