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tod
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response 42 of 74:
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Jan 19 18:34 UTC 2006 |
re #40
Exactly. It was about distributing a lethal prescription to assist a suicide.
It had nothing to do with his personality or the "machine" people are
referring to. This whole discussion is really an extension of how our
government and corporations control prescription drugs and how the media plays
into it by portraying people like Kevorkian as monsters for making such things
available to those in need. Fascism at its finest.
Why is it that only a few years ago, everyone was happy to see lawyers and
states going after Microsoft for controlling our lives but nobody wants to
step up to the plate when it comes to Big Brother controlling our medicine?
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nharmon
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response 43 of 74:
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Jan 19 18:49 UTC 2006 |
Because tod, we're too busy putting freedom on a force-march.
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tod
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response 44 of 74:
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Jan 19 19:06 UTC 2006 |
Killing our youth over a purple finger, yep.
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jep
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response 45 of 74:
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Jan 19 19:50 UTC 2006 |
re resp:41: Geez, Rane, can you please give me some warning before
dropping zingers like that? I almost swallowed my telephone headset.
I would not have thought your keyboard was capable of the string, "I
agree with what jep says".
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twenex
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response 46 of 74:
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Jan 19 20:08 UTC 2006 |
Oh dear. More humour. You tiresome individual. :-(
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tod
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response 47 of 74:
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Jan 19 20:11 UTC 2006 |
I agree with #41
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cross
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response 48 of 74:
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Jan 19 21:45 UTC 2006 |
This response has been erased.
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tod
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response 49 of 74:
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Jan 19 21:53 UTC 2006 |
I prefer the Liotta Tofu Stir Fry in Hannibal
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richard
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response 50 of 74:
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Jan 19 22:56 UTC 2006 |
Kevorkian has already said that if released he will never do an "assisted
suicide" again. The reason is that the state of Michigan revoked his
physician's license. He is an ethical man and believes that ONLY licensed
doctors should be allowed to treat patients. He will not act as a doctor
since he will never again be licensed to do so.
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happyboy
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response 51 of 74:
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Jan 19 23:07 UTC 2006 |
re49:"What is that? It smells delicious! *mummble*"
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tod
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response 52 of 74:
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Jan 19 23:09 UTC 2006 |
re #50
Never Say Never
*twangs 007 music on electric mandolin*
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nharmon
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response 53 of 74:
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Jan 20 00:40 UTC 2006 |
According to Wikipedia, Kevorkian lost his license after the second of
over one hundred assisted suicides. The lack of a physician's license
did not stop him before. Why would it stop him now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevorkian
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tod
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response 54 of 74:
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Jan 20 01:53 UTC 2006 |
The terrorists are WINNING
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klg
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response 55 of 74:
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Jan 20 04:08 UTC 2006 |
That was my recollection, NH. Richard don't know squat.
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richard
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response 56 of 74:
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Jan 20 15:39 UTC 2006 |
re #53 wikipedia might be wrong, don't assume everyting you read on wikipedia
is fact. Kevorkian was also licensed in more than one state. He has in fact
stated in writing that he will no longer treat patients if he is released.
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nharmon
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response 57 of 74:
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Jan 20 16:27 UTC 2006 |
I usually give Wikipedia the benefit of the doubt. Unless you have
something that contradicts it?
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klg
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response 58 of 74:
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Jan 20 17:06 UTC 2006 |
I wonder which definition of "treat" Dr Death has in mind.
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johnnie
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response 59 of 74:
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Jan 20 19:30 UTC 2006 |
Yes--generally speaking, a doctor "treats" patients to make them better,
to keep them alive. Killing a person wouldn't conflict with a promise
not to treat them.
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richard
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response 60 of 74:
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Jan 21 19:21 UTC 2006 |
klg don't call him "dr. death", he has a name. call him "dr.
kevorkian" The man has a family and spent a lot of years helping free
people who were prisoners of their bodies and of chronic pain. I don't
think you can appreciate this issue until or unless you have
experienced that kind of pain and there is nothing you can do about it,
or if someone you loved has experienced that kind of pain.
If a horse or a dog or a cat is in that kind of pain, we put them under
and call it "humane" Yet, because of religious thinking that these
people may not even hold to, they are somehow obliged to stay alive
even when they are screaming in pain day in and day out. Go to a
hospital some time to a Chronic ward klg, listen to the screams. Then
tell me you don't think its humane of one of these people wants a way
to die with dignity, just like dogs and horses get.
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nharmon
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response 61 of 74:
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Jan 21 19:54 UTC 2006 |
Lets not turn this into a another reason to bash religion. Richard,
would you agree that the fact that his actions were good does not
distract from his being a nutjob?
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rcurl
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response 62 of 74:
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Jan 21 20:42 UTC 2006 |
I rather considered him just unconventional.
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nharmon
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response 63 of 74:
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Jan 21 21:02 UTC 2006 |
I think Kevorkian did more harm to his cause than he helped.
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rcurl
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response 64 of 74:
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Jan 21 22:11 UTC 2006 |
Unconventional people often do that. It isn't always obvious what unconvential
course of action will accomplish an objective: e.g., sometimes demonstrations
help, sometimes they hinder.
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klg
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response 65 of 74:
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Jan 21 22:21 UTC 2006 |
I didn't realize there was a Mrs. Death.
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johnnie
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response 66 of 74:
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Jan 22 00:49 UTC 2006 |
There isn't. He was engaged once, but broke it off because his fiancee
"was not self-disciplined." He has said he never married because he
"couldn't find a perfectly compatible partner who shared his values and
goals and interests." Huh--who woulda figured?
He has a sister, though, and has said he has no friends other than the
guy who used to sell him carbon monoxide for his, uh, activities.
>don't call him "dr. death", he has a name.
Don't fuss--he supposedly likes the nickname. He acquired it from his
coworkers when he was a resident at Detroit Receiving Hospital many
years ago. Young Doc Jack requested the night shift because more people
died then. He'd tape open the eyelids of terminal patients so he could
look into their eyes as they died. He claimed his goal was to discover
how eyes changed at the moment of death (and published a paper on the
topic). He called his "project" the Death Rounds, and would wear a black
armband for added effect.
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