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richard
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response 413 of 526:
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Mar 6 21:15 UTC 2006 |
The ACLU defended Larry Flynt, publisher of Hustler, in the famous case
where Jerry Falwell was suing him for slander that ended up in the Supreme
Court.
Years later, the ACLU defended JERRY FALWELL in a case where the state of
Virginia said churches couldn't incorporate.
They won both cases.
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richard
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response 414 of 526:
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Mar 6 21:17 UTC 2006 |
in fact the ACLU has defended many many religious organizations. Freedom of
Religion is a protected freedom you know.
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nharmon
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response 415 of 526:
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Mar 6 21:27 UTC 2006 |
I like the work the NRA and SPLC do. In fact, I subscribe to
SPLC's "Intelligence Report". In the NRA's case, they do a good job
staying non-partisan through endorsing democratic candidates over
republican candidates in cases where the democrate is stronger on 2nd
amendment rights. John Dingell is one such candidate.
The SPLC also are not afraid of exposing the KKK, skinheads and radical
environmental extremists for the terrorists they are.
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nharmon
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response 416 of 526:
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Mar 6 21:29 UTC 2006 |
Another thing I like about the NRA: They do none of their own studies.
They rely totally upon unbiased third party studies such as those from
the Justice Department.
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richard
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response 417 of 526:
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Mar 6 21:29 UTC 2006 |
see now the NRA takes the broadest possible interpretation of the second
amendment. When the NRA does that its all right, but when the ACLU makes
broad interpretations, its called extremist. Its ridiculous.
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slynne
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response 418 of 526:
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Mar 6 21:30 UTC 2006 |
Hmmm...interesting.
Let's assume that the article in resp:410 is true (It very well may be
but I still have some doubt because of the source). It brings up some
interesting thoughts.
Are there more liberal college professors because conservatives are
discriminated against?
Are liberals more likely to choose acedemia than conservatives?
College professors are highly educated. Are non-college professors with
simiar education levels also more likely to be on the left? And if so,
does that mean that the more education you have, the more likely you
are to be progressive in your thought?
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richard
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response 419 of 526:
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Mar 6 21:31 UTC 2006 |
The NRA also openly contributes to and backs candidats. The ACLU has never
and will never endorse candidates for political office. Because the NRA is
a distinctly political organization while the ACLU is not.
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rcurl
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response 420 of 526:
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Mar 6 22:08 UTC 2006 |
I think you hit it, Lynne: "the more education you have, the more likely you
are to be progressive in your thought".
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bru
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response 421 of 526:
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Mar 6 22:43 UTC 2006 |
rcurl, will you please stop submitting this stupid and ridiculous definition!
Re #396: "more liberal" is good. Consider
liberal (adj). 1. Possessing or manifesting a free and generous heart;
bountiful. 2. Appropriate or fitting for a broad and enlightened mind. 3.
Free from narrowness, bigotry, or bondage to authority or creed, as in
religion; inclined to democratic or republican ideas, as opposed to
monarchical or aristocratic, as in politics; broad, popular, progressive.
illiberal (adj.). 1. Not liberal; not generous in giving; parsimonious. 2.
Narrow-minded. 3. Lacking breadth of culture; hence, vulgar.
All it does is make you appear illeberal and vulgar.
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keesan
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response 422 of 526:
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Mar 6 22:56 UTC 2006 |
Bru, could you please use a spell checker? And if you don't like Rane's
dictionary, submit a definition from another dictionary.
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bru
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response 423 of 526:
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Mar 7 00:42 UTC 2006 |
It doesn't matter what dictionary you use. The definition does not apply to
teh group or the party in question. Not all liberals have a generous heart,
I doubt even most of the do.
and just because I am not a member of a liberal party, that does not make me
narrow minded or lacking breadth of culture.
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marcvh
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response 424 of 526:
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Mar 7 00:44 UTC 2006 |
Nope, it's just a coincidence.
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rcurl
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response 425 of 526:
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Mar 7 07:06 UTC 2006 |
I think the definition fits most political liberals, and is a misfit with
most right-wingers. I post it when people attack liberals - to make manifest
what they are attacking. How do you think liberals got the tag? Because,
simply, they are liberal.
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bru
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response 426 of 526:
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Mar 7 13:15 UTC 2006 |
I do not think it fits most political liberals I have met.
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klg
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response 427 of 526:
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Mar 7 17:18 UTC 2006 |
Curl's definition (and comments) shows a clear problem with liberals -
they tend to be overly self-righteous and overly critical/intolerant of
those with differing philosophies.
The correlation of more "higher" education with greater liberalism is
likely a manifestation of inbreeding.
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rcurl
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response 428 of 526:
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Mar 7 18:09 UTC 2006 |
Please give some examples of political liberals not following the definition
of liberal.
Re #427: ROTFLOL!! Who are the ridiculously self-righteous and intolerant?
Right wingers. They define the traits.
The correlation of more education with greater liberalism is due to a better
understanding of human nature and a greater tolerance for self determination.
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richard
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response 429 of 526:
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Mar 7 18:49 UTC 2006 |
Its not just a correlation between more education and liberalism, there is
also a correlation very similar between more education and atheism. Studies
consistently show that the highest percentage of the most devoutly religious
are among those who are not college graduates. Similarly, organized religion
does best in those parts of the world where the people are the least educated
or literate.
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klg
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response 430 of 526:
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Mar 7 20:02 UTC 2006 |
(Do I require more proof than response #428?)
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rcurl
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response 431 of 526:
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Mar 7 20:03 UTC 2006 |
Stop avoiding questions and "give some examples of political liberals not
following the definition of liberal."
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klg
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response 432 of 526:
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Mar 7 20:15 UTC 2006 |
liberal (adj). 1. Possessing or manifesting a free and generous heart;
bountiful. 2. Appropriate or fitting for a broad and enlightened mind.
3. Free from narrowness, bigotry, or bondage to authority or creed, as
in religion; inclined to democratic or republican ideas, as opposed to
monarchical or aristocratic, as in politics; broad, popular,
progressive.
"Free from bondage to creed" - You mean that you can't predict with
near 100% certainty what liberals are going to say before they say it???
"Free from Narrowness . . .Progressive" - liberals appear to be stuck
in the past, afraid to consider new approaches to problems they have
been unable to solve with the same-old same-old.
"Generous heart" - Much of the liberal agenda seems to be associated
with ways to keep the poor dependent on government handouts, rather
than providing them with true opportunities to improve their stations
in life.
"As opposed to aristocratic" - generally, liberal congressmen &
senators don't appear to be any less rich or less haughty than
conservatives.
"Popular" - Texans have been voting 59% Republican, but the Democrats
have been doing everything they can to assure that the voting
districts send a 60% Democratic delegation to Congress.
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richard
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response 433 of 526:
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Mar 7 21:20 UTC 2006 |
Nearly three million people in Texas voted for Kerry. The GOP in Texas, under
Tom Delay, have resorted to highly unethical gerrymandering to steal
previously democratic districts and create more GOP seats. That has nothing
to do with the democrats, they are not responsible for that.
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richard
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response 434 of 526:
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Mar 7 21:28 UTC 2006 |
liberals are more open minded than conservatives, because many conservatives
base their political beliefs on their religious beliefs, which mean they have
less room to compromise. This is why republican presidents win landslides
in this country, not democrat presidential candidates. Because democrats are
more willing to be open minded and consider candidates from the other party.
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rcurl
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response 435 of 526:
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Mar 7 21:47 UTC 2006 |
Re #432: KLG is, as usual, avoiding the question:
Stop avoiding questions and "give some examples of political liberals not
following the definition of liberal."
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nharmon
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response 436 of 526:
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Mar 7 21:57 UTC 2006 |
> give some examples of political liberals not following the definition
> of liberal.
"[America] would be better without Rush Limbaugh and his 20 million
listeners[...] I don t have to my house for dinner anyone who s not pro-
choice, pro-gun control [...] pro-campaign finance reform"
--Eric Alterman, interview with the Los Angeles Times, March 2003
Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 expose that
political liberal's closed-mindedness for the truth.
Want more?
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richard
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response 437 of 526:
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Mar 7 22:07 UTC 2006 |
but Moore wasn't close minded in that movie, I mean he DID go to visit NRA
head Charlton Heston at his house, to get Heston's point of view
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