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25 new of 467 responses total.
marcvh
response 402 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 22:56 UTC 2005

3 characters would be plenty, if minimizing size were the goal.
gelinas
response 403 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 04:12 UTC 2005

Re #396:  See responses 10ff of this item.
albaugh
response 404 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 23:25 UTC 2005

Yes, I stand corrected.  I don't know how I could have forgotten that - I
mean, it was only a little over a year ago...  ;-)
gelinas
response 405 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 03:14 UTC 2005

I knew where to start and had the patience to wade through as much as
necessary to find it. :)
albaugh
response 406 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 17:37 UTC 2005

albaugh> I would like to retain the 8-character-maximum length for userIDs,
       > under nextgrex, even if the O/S supports longer ones.  

> #397 of 405: by John H. Remmers (remmers) on Fri, Jan 14, 2005 (14:33):
> Let's start by just discussing it here ... If a concensus emerges 
> that people would like a shorter limit, staff can just *do* it.
>
> My preference would be to retain the old 8-character limit

So, is there consensus, how is that judged, what does staff need to see to
reinstate the old 8-character limit?
gelinas
response 407 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 17:54 UTC 2005

I, for one, prefer a longer limit.  It's hard enough expressing a personality
on a license plate; why make our online life as difficult?
keesan
response 408 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 18:20 UTC 2005

I don't see why a userid should be used to express a personality.  You can
always change your name in the bbs (and probably in party).  Longer usernames
are just more bother to filter.  Nobody but twits seems to be using them, they
don't print out properly with 'w'.
mooncat
response 409 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 19:25 UTC 2005

RE #408- Sindi, names, and thus handles, mean a lot to some people. 
Names convey a great deal- more than most people think.

Just because you see nothing in it does not mean that other people do 
not.
gelinas
response 410 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 19:30 UTC 2005

(Nor does it mean that there is nothing there.)
tod
response 411 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 19:32 UTC 2005

The long name standard is annoying.
I'm with Sindi on this.
marcvh
response 412 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 19:46 UTC 2005

Usernames are supposed to be an unambiguous, easy-to-type easy-to-remember
way to refer to a specific user.  They are not primarily intended to be a
creative outlet.

Long ones do not serve this purpose better, and I say this as someone with
a long name which arguably could "benefit" from longer usernames.
keesan
response 413 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 19:57 UTC 2005

Why are you marcvh instead of mvh?
marcvh
response 414 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 20:59 UTC 2005

I tend to think that usernames which are mostly pronouncable sequences
work better than usernames where the letters are all consonants.  It's
also possible that mvh was taken when I registered nineteen years ago;
hard to remember.  Maybe we should get rid of usernames and just use UIDs
for these things.
cross
response 415 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 21:29 UTC 2005

Hey!  That'd be like TOPS-10!
albaugh
response 416 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 23:04 UTC 2005

I'm waiting for remmers to comment.  I'll try to take things to a vote "if
I have to", for all the good it would do.

In the mean time, grex mailbox handling is broken, AFAIC.
twenex
response 417 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 23:56 UTC 2005

When I see "ken" and "dmr" and suchlike, that's when I miss having a middle
name. It's not as common in the UK as it is in the US.
sholmes
response 418 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 02:50 UTC 2005

http://www.humnri.com/HumZone/Jokes/read.asp?id=429&JokesCatid=14
other
response 419 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 02:55 UTC 2005

LAME!
scholar
response 420 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 03:23 UTC 2005

LUST!
janc
response 421 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 15:59 UTC 2005

My personal opinion is that people getting hot and bothered over long names
are letting themselves get overheated by a small number of prank accounts.
Below is a list of all the more-than-eight-character logins on the system
right now.  Are they all evil?  It is bad for "Ron Jeremy" to have the login
"ronjeremy"?  Should "Mark Silverstone" not have the login "silverstone"?  Is
"siegfried" an unreasonable login name?  Is "intellectual" too hard to type?
Harder than, say "l01010l0"?

Personally, I think everything up to 12 characters is perfectly fine.  There
are a total of 17 longer logins which don't bother me much either, if only
because I don't expect people to be logging in to them much.  If people
really care I wouldn't object to reducing the newuser limit to 12 (and
increasing the webnewuser to 12).  I don't think that would block any
reasonably desireable logins.

However, it's nice to have a nice login name.  With tens of thousands of
users, it isn't always easy to find one.  Allowing logins longer than
eight characters means more people have more chances of having a nice
login.  Yes, it also increases the range of obnoxious logins that obnoxious
users might choose, but if you spend all your time focusing on the obnoxious
people instead of the nice people you are just going to make yourself
miserable.  Let's be nice to the nice and not worry so much about the
obnoxious.

    ronjeremy                       Ron Jeremy
    jonasyorg                       Jonas Yorg
    thisisgay                       jason wilson
    creative2                       Teresa Thomas
    pachecosc                       adriano
    rajeev212                       rajeev
    simulacra                       Engin Daloglu
    maldini03                       budi maiden
    meskalina                       Bartosz Ogonowski
    amitchell                       Andrew Mitchell
    emyrrdin6                       Emrys Myrrdin
    testectbc                       teste
    p08020109                       Waqas Burney
    nullvalue                       null
    mardonius                       fernando martinez
    andrew2iz                       Andrzej
    nightmare                       NighTmarE
    coderjon0                       Jon Bryan
    indian123                       QWERTY
    barmaglot                       B r a  n d s m g
    pileswasp                       Iain
    poyzunivy                       Heathyr F Hoffman
    athnetius                       Conrad,,,
    giancarlo                       Juan Carlos
    unidade05                       Un1d4d3_O5
    misiek999                       Vlad
    jagadeesh                       Jag
    ofitr953r                       Fuck Hankins
    anujpuri1                       anuj puri1
    siegfried                       Siegfried Rudzio
    centaur78                       dan
    lnitrousl                       Harry Pua
    silentman                       faisal
    jamespong                       James Chau
    kcfanatic                       Darren Nichols
    selvar911                       selvar911
    bimaldswer                      Bimal D Swer
    hentaijiji                      Hentai
    satyen4you                      satyendra
    edgarcsosa                      Edgar Cosme Sosa
    starrdruid                      Aleksey
    o123456789                      onetwothree
    doublechaz                      Charles Mitchell
    etat613613                      tate christie
    tritobagus                      Trito bagus
    abangbatax                      abangbatax
    juancarlos                      juan carlos
    davidspant                      Dsavid Sabido Pantoja
    sasuandrei                      sasu andreio
    jeffreyuop                      Jeffrey
    sharadstud                      Sharad
    cyberactiv                      frat
    myth1heart                      Marilyn Giglio
    jollyjoker                      jolly joker
    craigcolby                      Craig Colby
    thebrother                      The Brother
    wujeksopel                      Wujek Sopel
    handalatif                      handalatif
    titiritero                      El titiritero
    masturbator                     fiomger
    greenscreen                     Adam McFillin
    littertiger                     little tiger
    admincarlos                     hans
    hatepimples                     hate pimples
    silverstone                     Mark Silverstone
    abcdefghijk                     Ateste
    shakespeare                     William Shakespeare
    ryan1111111                     Ryan1 Test
    nobitagamer                     Yahoo Operator
    bhatiavarun                     Varun Bhatia
    kcmiata2001                     Andrew Kain
    elvispresley                    Elvis Aaron Presley
    intellectual                    The Intellectual
    foodrunner44                    Fatboy Slim
    nharmonthefag                   nate
    terminalhacker                  terminal
    abrahamlincoln                  Abraham Lincoln
    sherlockholmes                  Sherlock Holmes
    hongkongphooey                  Hong Kong Phooey
    thomasjefferson                 Thomas Jefferson
    georgewashington                George Washington
    asddsaasddsaasddsa              sad
    zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba      WWW
    abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz      Anotherteste
    tridotforwardemailtorichard     asdf
    triludaaisagheyfrickenfaggot    TRILUDAA
    triludaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa   james
    mfpmfpmfpmfpmfpmfpmfpmfpmfpmfp  klooger
    qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq  The Name Greater than All Imaginable Names
    qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq Archaic Revival
    mygrexaccountforemailidonotwant Kate Sandler
keesan
response 422 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 18:03 UTC 2005

Judging from the above list, anything more than 12 characters apppears to be
the work of vandals, or at the very least of users who don't intend to use
these logins - Anotherteste .  I would cut it off at 12 or even 11. 
mooncat
response 423 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 18:35 UTC 2005

I think 12 is good.
albaugh
response 424 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 18:53 UTC 2005

How about split the difference, and go with 10.  :-)  Seriously, though, how
is the decision arrived at, what is needed to deploy?
mary
response 425 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 19:14 UTC 2005

10 or 12 sounds fine by me too.

The decision is arrived at when there is a sense of what is 
reasonable from a reasonable majority.  And those who disagree have 
had a chance to state their case.

I think we're moving in that direction.  I trust staff's judgement 
to know when it's time.  We really don't need a vote on this, Kevin.
Staff can handle it just fine. 
cross
response 426 of 467: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 20:29 UTC 2005

I'd say 12 is good.
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