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robh
response 400 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 17:04 UTC 1996

And a separate power meter.  (Look, popcorn, I spelled it correctly!  >8)
Of course, the point is moot now, as the Huron site is an actual
room with ready-made walls and door all set up.
popcorn
response 401 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 18:43 UTC 1996

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popcorn
response 402 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 18:44 UTC 1996

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robh
response 403 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 18:50 UTC 1996

That's something, at least.  We should still move as quickly as
possible on the Huron site, of course.

(BTW, you did get this guy's name, in case someone else from the
building department thinks otherwise?)
janc
response 404 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 19:48 UTC 1996

Yes, Valerie mentioned the person's name in her Email.

The $750 also included a door, but as various people said, that is moot.

Good to hear the city will allow us time for an orderly move.  This means
Grex should have very little downtime (maybe a day, likely less) for the move.

West Huron should be fine.  I'm not 100% sure it wasn't the better deal.  If
we hear from the Red Cross in the next few days, maybe we will reconsider,
but the space is small, and we would be very dependent on dealing with an
agency that doesn't seem to be any more efficient at making these kinds of
decisions than Grex is.  $60 for the pleasure of having space we have a real
claim on isn't too bad.
russ
response 405 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 19:59 UTC 1996

Having dealt with the Red Cross before, I'd have to say they're not so
bad.
robh
response 406 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 20:32 UTC 1996

<robh wonders whether the Red Cross will get back to us within
two *months*>
rcurl
response 407 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 20:45 UTC 1996

Have they been informed of the circumstances lately, and asked?
janc
response 408 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 00:21 UTC 1996

I beleive so.
kain
response 409 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 16:32 UTC 1996

havve we made any permanent decisions yet?
popcorn
response 410 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 18:33 UTC 1996

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tsty
response 411 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 11:53 UTC 1996

if grex is ?willing? to pay $750 for a damn wall, ... give me the
plans, the money and come back in a couple days. you 'll have your
wall adn i'll be in bermuda on the profits.  good grief y'all!?
  
none of us, surely, popped up with that figure, i hope.

popcorn
response 412 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 14:33 UTC 1996

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rickyb
response 413 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 18:51 UTC 1996

True, the site is not available, but as a FYI, current rates for a _finshed
wall_ (construction, paint, one electric outlet, door framing) is between $50
and $60 per running foot.  At Plymouth Rd there were to have been _two walls_
required, of about 12ft and 14ft.  26ft x $50/ft = $1300.  $700-750 to do it
yourself is, at least reasonable.

I'm still looking at another lead.  There may be a need to put up a wall or
partition there as well, so this discussion is not totally off track.  In the
meantime, I'd opt for valeries last possibility.

ewhisam
response 414 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 20:53 UTC 1996

This is getting fretful again.   :'(
srw
response 415 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 07:05 UTC 1996

The Red Cross is aware of our problem, but is still trying to decide if they
can free up the space, and still waiting to hear from the city whether they
would allow us to inhabit their basement. I am disappointed to say the least
in how long this is taking to resolve. I am much less happy with the Red Cross
than I was a month ago. I am getting less and less optimistic that we can
count on them. They haven't said no, yet, but I am glad we are looking at
these other alternatives.
popcorn
response 416 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 23:06 UTC 1996

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tsty
response 417 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 08:28 UTC 1996

for one, i am not inthe least disappointed in the miniscule amount of time
it is taking for grex to find a competent home - particualrily given the
dictated and forced circumstances. no american entity should be dictated
to *jump* if some irrational borg snaps its digits absent some imminent
threat to the sanctity and solice of others.
chaz
response 418 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 00:31 UTC 1996

Welp, like I said before, MY house is avaialable and is reent free!!!!!
and If you need ahome, call me voice! I WILL let you people in!!!
and you may set up the lines and everyone will be able to call. 
but if your so insiitant on not doing it, then lose the bbs.
have aday
janc
response 419 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 01:52 UTC 1996

The offer is a kind one, but I suspect many people would be uncomfortable
housing Grex in any individual's home.  Though maybe it would be worth
considering.

We've been doing more wheeling and dealing on another site.  I'm not going
to name names at this point because I don't have any idea if that's OK or not.
Still, I think the broad outlines should be discussed in public.

We would rent a nice room of our own in a nice building.  It really meets all
our requirements, but the rent is high.  It would be gradually esculating from
$210 a month to $285 a month during the first year (averaging at $247 a month
for the whole year) and then be $295 a month for the subsequent year.  This
includes electricity, so it compares to about $25+$80 in our current location.

The big attraction is that there is an ISP in the building that would give
us a 112k hardwire internet conection for $175 a month, which is way lower
than the commerical rate.  Since we would be directly connected to them, it
would be a more reliable link than the current phone-line connection we have,
and it would be four times faster than the current internet connection.

Basically, I don't think we can afford this right now.  We'd be gambling that
we could get more donations with a faster link, enough to cover the
considerable increase in costs.

More options are still being explored.
chelsea
response 420 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 04:24 UTC 1996

We can't afford it.  I'm sure some folks would like to try it but I'd bet
that within a very short time we'd be begging and pleading for money. 
Also, there would a push to turn membership into something that resembled
payment for services instead of a donation to keep free community service
available for all.

scg
response 421 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 04:39 UTC 1996

I don't think we can afford it either.  I also don't see the point in being
able to afford it.  I'm not convinced that, compared to our other options,
it gains us anything useful.
dang
response 422 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 12:40 UTC 1996

something like 8 new *year* long memberships per month?  No way we can afford
that, even if people really start supporting us.
popcorn
response 423 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 14:10 UTC 1996

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kaplan
response 424 of 561: Mark Unseen   Sep 21 05:42 UTC 1996

I think I agree with Chelsea that a grex with those kind of expenses would
quickly become a broke grex or a grex that may not feel enough like the
current grex to be called grex.
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