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gypsi
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response 40 of 104:
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Jul 22 18:29 UTC 2000 |
No kidding. I hate Peter Gabriel's radio stuff ("Games Without Frontiers") is
the exception. 96.3 plays "Red Rain" once in a while, but I don't count
that as a radio release.
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lelande
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response 41 of 104:
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Jul 22 19:52 UTC 2000 |
'family portrait' (i may have the title wrong) is my favorite peter
gabriel tune
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twinkie
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response 42 of 104:
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Jul 23 06:30 UTC 2000 |
I dunno.
I think Peter Gabriel's music is irritating and trite.
A lot of Phil Collins's music is trite, too...but far less irritating.
And, he's one hell of a drummer.
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brighn
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response 43 of 104:
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Jul 24 05:11 UTC 2000 |
I think it's "Family Snapshot." I recall "Sanpschuss" being the German title.
"Shock the Monkey" is another radio track I'd have to say is typical of his
artistry. It was really only his titled CDs (inasmuch as PG4 wasn't
voluntarily titled "Security") that had obvious radio tracks meant for mass
and vapid consumption ("Steam", e.g. -- although I always thought of "Kiss
the Frog" as one of those mass consumption singles, and I thought Gypsi aid
she liked that one... oh yeah, and "Sledgehammer," which was almost as obvious
as radio song as REM's "Stand," which qualifies as possibly the most annoying
song ever written by an artistic, quality band).
From a purely poetic standpoint, I think "Family Snapshot" is one of the best
musical poems PG has written, from the emotional breadth of it (from anger,
to hatred, to desperation, to poignant forlornness).
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jazz
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response 44 of 104:
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Jul 24 14:56 UTC 2000 |
Didn't he admit that "Kiss the Frog" was about fellatio, or is that
just another urban legend?
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dbratman
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response 45 of 104:
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Jul 25 23:19 UTC 2000 |
Mike: I hardly ever listen to pop radio. OK, I've heard a lot of
Collins in muzak situations (and in the recent Tarzan movie), but my
knowledge of Gabriel is almost exclusively from stuff played to me by
Gabriel fans, often in traded/circulated tapes. I remember hearing
about half of his album "So" on such a tape, and really liking it. Then
I bought it, and didn't like it at all.
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brighn
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response 46 of 104:
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Jul 26 14:16 UTC 2000 |
I can understand someone not liking PG... it's a free country.
I can't understand someone thinking he sounds just like Phil Collins.
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gypsi
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response 47 of 104:
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Jul 26 14:52 UTC 2000 |
Ditto. I don't see any similarities, even in most of the radio releases. I
can't picture either one of them writing the other one's songs.
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dbratman
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response 48 of 104:
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Jul 26 18:40 UTC 2000 |
The voices aren't alike, but the songs are very similar: long, rambling,
highly tuneful without being irritatingly catchy and with no melodic
"tricks"; and the arrangements are also very similar: vocally lyric and
soaring over strongly rhythmic but complex (not thumpa-thumpa)
instrumentals.
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gypsi
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response 49 of 104:
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Jul 26 20:43 UTC 2000 |
"Sussudio" (or whatever it is) isn't annoyingly catchy? "Two Hearts" isn't
annoyingly catchy? Blecch.
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lelande
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response 50 of 104:
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Jul 26 21:01 UTC 2000 |
i can't dance.
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brighn
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response 51 of 104:
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Jul 26 21:18 UTC 2000 |
"Sledgehammer" isn't annoyingly catchy?
I guess I disagree. Despite Collins' art-rock origins (a la Genesis), Collins
is much more likely to write traditional stanza-chorus-stanza-chorus-chorus
style songs (one major exception being "In the air tonight"), while Gabriel
tries to vary the model (although the radio tracks still have it).
But it makes sense that collins would have some Gabriel trademarks... *shrug*
In general, they SHOULD be musically compatible, else Genesis (with Gabriel)
wouldn't've gone anywhere at all.
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gypsi
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response 52 of 104:
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Jul 26 21:31 UTC 2000 |
"Sledgehammer" and the other stupid Top 40 ones are a bit catchy and don't
sound like "Peter Gabriel" songs to me.
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stacie
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response 53 of 104:
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Jul 26 21:53 UTC 2000 |
Oh.. I can't help it. I HATE that sledgehammer song. Not as bad as that Sugar
Ray group, though. *vomit*
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scott
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response 54 of 104:
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Jul 26 22:08 UTC 2000 |
I've got an odd perspective on monsterously popular hit songs: I don't listen
to the radio enough to get sick of them. So "Sledgehammer" is OK, although
a bit tame compared to the other stuff Gabriel has done. And I still like
Red Hot Chili Pepper's "Under the Bridge"... weird, huh?
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brighn
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response 55 of 104:
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Jul 26 22:42 UTC 2000 |
Weird Al made Sledgehammer tolerable again.
I wanna be your... SLEDGEhammer *tingtingting!*
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lumen
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response 56 of 104:
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Jul 27 05:58 UTC 2000 |
You have to remember that 'Sledgehammer' most likely got popular by
means of the video made for it, which was a pioneering music video for
its time. Alone, yes, the song isn't all that great. With the video,
it's gool ol' MTV mind candy.
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mcnally
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response 57 of 104:
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Jul 27 20:02 UTC 2000 |
"mind candy" is actually a pretty good literal description of parts of it..
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dbratman
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response 58 of 104:
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Jul 28 23:34 UTC 2000 |
I don't think I know those "irritatingly catchy" Phil Collins songs.
Looking quickly at a list of his album contents, the songs I recognize
and remember liking from titles are "One More Night" and "In Your
Eyes", especially the latter I also liked most of the songs
in "Tarzan".
Possibly I've heard these irritating songs and didn't realize they were
him, because they didn't sound like the Phil Collins I know.
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brighn
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response 59 of 104:
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Jul 29 00:09 UTC 2000 |
Isn't "In Your Eyes" Peter Gabriel?
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scott
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response 60 of 104:
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Jul 29 00:15 UTC 2000 |
Collins was quite the celeb for a while, wasn't he? Beer commercials, guest
shot on Miami Vice, etc.
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mcnally
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response 61 of 104:
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Jul 29 01:43 UTC 2000 |
re #59: Yes it is. He's just trying to reinforce his point that he
can't keep them straight..
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brighn
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response 62 of 104:
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Jul 29 03:15 UTC 2000 |
I will grant that "One More Night" and "In Your Eyes" sound fairly similar,
but that's because they're both light pop songs, fairly formula. I could throw
out a dozen other songs by entirely different artists that sound like that,
too.
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mary
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response 63 of 104:
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Jul 29 11:32 UTC 2000 |
I asked someone who knows the jazz genre reasonably well his
opinion on Kenny G and Methany. His feeling is they are one
and the same, both playing soft easy-listening jazz-infused
musak. Gawd, is that true? If so it paints an even cattier
picture of Methany's comments.
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lelande
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response 64 of 104:
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Jul 29 18:14 UTC 2000 |
check this out:
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/threads/patmetheny.htm
metheny was one of the many cats in the development of fusion jazz,
which has its ups and downs like anything else. he was friends with one
of my favorites, jaco pastorius, one of the most versatile, lyrical
bassists in the history of the instrument, and played with him in a
couple groups. i remember him playing with jean-luc ponty, fusion
violinist (i can imagine a lot of people would categorize ponty in the
reviled 'smooth' category, or attribute roots of 'smooth' to him),
another favorite of mine.
after the early 80s, which was a depressing time for any type of music
(except rap), i know nothing of metheny. before this time, i know only a
little, of which i'm not really a fan. but i'm pretty sure he knows his
stuff about the craft and theory of muzique.
but this doesn't look like the appropriate item.
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