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steve
response 40 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 15:57 UTC 1998

   It was 62 days of uptime.  In the last 6 months M-Net's reliability
has gotten amazingly better.  It's a solid system now.

   Kevin, where were you telnetting from when this happened?
tsty
response 41 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 02:27 UTC 1998

true, steve .. and the m-b0x even recovered from two (yes, two)
vandal attacks within just hours. the attack&wipes were about 3 dyas
apart.
eeyore
response 42 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 03:48 UTC 1998

Well, I'm now using Alphaworks...and it seems to be working a bit better.
dpc
response 43 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 01:49 UTC 1998

Er, actually M-Net set a new record of 59 days, 10 hours and 33
minutes of uptime before it froze because it overheated.  Some really
vigorous discussions must have been going on!   8-)
mcnally
response 44 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 06:02 UTC 1998

  there's something charmingly oxymoronic in the phrase "froze because
  it overheated"..
steve
response 45 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 21:45 UTC 1998

   Hmmm... sure it wasn't 62 days?  Thats what I saw and remembered it
as two months.  Oh well, either number is impressive.

   But seeing as this is a the Grex problems item, I have a question
which is how many people get severe line noise, usually after being
connected a minute or so?  I'm trying to determine if I have a problem
or if grex does.
valerie
response 46 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 15:07 UTC 1998

This response has been erased.

keesan
response 47 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 15:35 UTC 1998

I finally figured out that to get to grex from the website you do not click
on Backtalk but on Go to the conferences.  And there I found the option of
choosing Pistachio backtalk, which requires any browser except lynx, i. e.,
a graphics-based browser.  My only web access is by dialing directly to grex
and using lynx.  This apparently means that people who dial in to grex and/or
are using older computers cannot use Pistachio.  Therefore there is no way
that I can change the title of an item.  Am I wrong?  If I am not wrong, could
someone correct this situation so that local users who dial in, and
telnetters, can do the same things as those who access from the website?

Also, I tried to do lynx to www.cyberspace.org/nu/newuser.html and was told
it was 'not found on this server'.  That is what I was told was a way to
create a newuser account directly rather than going to the main website.  Did
I do something wrong?  
eeyore
response 48 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 01:36 UTC 1998

re:46 Valerie, it's the best that I have out of three!  (pretty pathetic, eh?
cmcgee
response 49 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 13:51 UTC 1998

Email correspondents have reported intermittant refusals of mail addressed
to cyberspace.org.  grex.cyberspace.org seems to work fine.
senna
response 50 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 15:22 UTC 1998

Colleen, that may be because they sent mail to cyberspace.org while mail was
down and marcus was cleaning out spam.
tpryan
response 51 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 16:14 UTC 1998

        What just happened here at noon time with load number to past
36.0 instead of more normal 3.0?  It sure made GREX intolerable.
valerie
response 52 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 16:59 UTC 1998

This response has been erased.

senna
response 53 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 00:51 UTC 1998

Actually, the slowdown reminded me of what grex used to be like on the old
computer more than anything else.
keesan
response 54 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 02:42 UTC 1998

Got right to the webpage for newusers this time, Valerie.
I was using Vanilla to enter a response in Backtalk, after reading that
Pistachio could not be used with lynx.  I have not tried to use it, since I
was told that I could not.  Do you want to check if it is possible, and then
if it is, change the instructions?  I would still like to retitle an item.
And why do you have to go to the website to retitle an item instead of doing
it directly, after dialing in or telnetting in?
remmers
response 55 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 13:34 UTC 1998

The pistachio interface uses an HTML facility called "frames", which 
lynx probably doesn't support.

Dialup/telnet and web connections use Picospan and Backtalk, 
respectively, for accessing the conferences. These are entirely 
different pieces of software. Picospan doesn't support retitling items, 
and since we don't have source code for Picospan, we can't change that.

I would think, though, that it would be possible to write a special 
purpose standalone privileged program that would do the same retitling 
that Backtalk does and could be invoked from the shell. So I suppose the 
real answer to your last question is that nobody has gotten around to 
doing the necessary programming. It shouldn't be hard to do - it would 
be a matter of lifting the relevant source code from Backtalk and 
repackaging it to work as a standalone command.
keesan
response 56 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 18:33 UTC 1998

Do I also have to use Pistachio to kill an item that I started?  Or can it
be done by a command from the Unix prompt?  (Classified items that sold).
richard
response 57 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 22:19 UTC 1998

I have a Backtalk query-- these days I backtalk more than I telnet and I 
find it frustrating that when I log into grex via backtalk, backtalk 
will not tell me if I have mail waiting.  Can backtalk not be programmed 
to check the mail ques just as Picospan does when one logs on via 
telnet?  

Why not add a button to the backtalk entrance screen that says 
"See if you have incoming mail?"  Then one could click if he/she wanted 
to check, and if there was mail waiting, they would know they should log 
back in via telnet.

fungster
response 58 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 06:13 UTC 1998

I've been kicked off twice now (once in the queue when I was in
the queue and only three were ahead of the line and one while
readingthe coop conference.) Both times, the result I got from the
telnet program (I telnet into a VAX before here) is:
%TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 204.212.46.130
%TELNET-E-CONNFAIL, Failed to connect to remote host
-SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable     
And, in the next minute after I get kicked, I can't
reach Grex, but after the minute all is fine and I'm back at the
end of the line :-( (all this was was within the last half hour)

BTW, lynx does support frames, although you have to toggle back
and forth to the frameset page.
remmers
response 59 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 17:22 UTC 1998

Pistachio keeps navigation buttons in a separate frame from item text.
In a graphical browser, this is quite convenient, because the navigation
buttons remain visible as the text is scrolled. If you have to toggle
back and forth to see different frames in lynx, you lose the
convenience.
senna
response 60 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 18:57 UTC 1998

They do?  Is this a new modification?  I was always annoyed with the fact that
I had to scroll to get to the navigation buttons before.
hhsrat
response 61 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 01:33 UTC 1998

I am using pistachio, and I can say for sure that I am not in any 
frames.  I have never seen frames when using backtalk.
senna
response 62 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 05:04 UTC 1998

That's what I thought.  I've never seen them easier, but I usually use
picospan while dialed in.
scott
response 63 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 10:38 UTC 1998

The frames in pistachio are not visible, but there nonetheless.  The buttons
at the top are in a frame.
senna
response 64 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 14:39 UTC 1998

Is it possible to put the buttons in a visible frame that doesn't scroll? 
It seems that that would be rather helpful.
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