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kentn
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response 4 of 115:
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Apr 13 23:22 UTC 2010 |
At one point, I'm sure we had enough people using them and enough
membership money coming in to cover the cost. But this is obviously no
longer the case. Since we have practically no money coming in right
now, it would make good sense to reduce expenses where we can reasonably
do so. And of course, we'd like to do as little harm to meeting our
mission as possible while reducing expenses.
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tonster
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response 5 of 115:
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Apr 14 02:36 UTC 2010 |
At one time having just 2 lines would have produced 100% busy signals
too, but that time was about 15 years ago. :)
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tsty
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response 6 of 115:
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Apr 14 05:29 UTC 2010 |
please LINK t o agora !!
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tsty
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response 7 of 115:
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Apr 14 05:32 UTC 2010 |
keepoing one line, 'just because' would be a decent idea, imo,
i might be luddite-ish to do so, but, teh learning curve starts ther.e
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kentn
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response 8 of 115:
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Apr 14 15:24 UTC 2010 |
I suspect that dialing in via a modem is a learning curve very very few
undertake any more.
The Board has a responsibility to not waste money if we can reasonably
avoid it. 'Just because' doesn't sound to me like a good rationale
for spending money in this case, especially when there are dial-in
alternatives for people. They can get on the learning curve that way if
they desire to do so.
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mary
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response 9 of 115:
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Apr 14 17:39 UTC 2010 |
I agree and would support their being discontinued as soon as fair warning
has been issued. I put a pointer to this item in the MOTD this morning.
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kentn
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response 10 of 115:
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Apr 14 17:46 UTC 2010 |
Thanks for the MOTD update, Mary. Do we also want to link this to agora
since not everyone reads coop?
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mary
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response 11 of 115:
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Apr 14 19:42 UTC 2010 |
Yes, Katie has to do that. I'll send her email.
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mary
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response 12 of 115:
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Apr 15 00:52 UTC 2010 |
Thanks, Katie!
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keesan
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response 13 of 115:
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Apr 15 01:17 UTC 2010 |
I am one of the last modem users. It is quicker to boot into DOS and use
kermit to access grex, and it responds faster than if I go via dialinfree,
but I vote to drop the lines. I can't use DOS with a PCI modem anyway and
I have a whole bunch of computers without ISA slots now.
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slynne
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response 14 of 115:
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Apr 15 02:49 UTC 2010 |
I say if Sindi Keesan says drop the lines, the lines should be dropped!
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rcurl
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response 15 of 115:
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Apr 15 04:17 UTC 2010 |
I saw my modem the other day. I don't think it will work with any computer
I now use....and I'm not going to waste my time trying to make it work.
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lar
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response 16 of 115:
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Apr 15 04:58 UTC 2010 |
It might be wise to keep one line.
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keesan
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response 17 of 115:
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Apr 15 13:57 UTC 2010 |
My external modems work with all my computers but there are some newer models
without serial ports now.
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tsty
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response 18 of 115:
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Apr 16 14:22 UTC 2010 |
ok, dump both.
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mary
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response 19 of 115:
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Apr 16 15:11 UTC 2010 |
I agree.
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jadecat
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response 20 of 115:
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Apr 16 15:39 UTC 2010 |
resp:14 Yeah, that was my thought too. ;)
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zulu
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response 21 of 115:
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Apr 16 16:39 UTC 2010 |
Keep the phone lines. Dump Grex.
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keesan
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response 22 of 115:
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Apr 16 16:55 UTC 2010 |
Keep grex, dump twits.
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richard
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response 23 of 115:
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Apr 16 18:26 UTC 2010 |
What if grex's 'net server goes down and it is off the internet for a
time. it happens. If the 'net is down and there are no phone lines,
grex would be totally inaccessible.
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bellstar
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response 24 of 115:
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Apr 16 18:34 UTC 2010 |
The probabiliy of Grex's connection to the Internet going down is extremely
small compared to the probability of Grex itself going down (which happens
every once in a while). When Grex itself is down phone lines can't do much,
unless they are used to remotely power cycle or debug for which I doubt Grex
has the required hardware. Just saying from the technical point of view. I
don't think I get a say in keeping or ditching the phone lines in question.
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kentn
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response 25 of 115:
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Apr 16 18:56 UTC 2010 |
Right. During the recent several-week outage, the phone lines did
nothing that I know of to help the situation (and we had to pay for a
month of their use to boot). There has been prior discussion of getting
the hardware (card) that would allow remote reboots. It's not expensive
and might save staff time going to the co-lo to do the work. But we do
have more staff members with access to where Grex's machine is located
and they have expressed a willingness to go there and get it going again
if it needs a reboot.
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jgelinas
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response 26 of 115:
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Apr 18 16:53 UTC 2010 |
If the 'net connection' is down, getting to grex by telephone line won't
do a lot of good: there won't be anyone here to talk to.
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wlevak
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response 27 of 115:
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Apr 19 01:28 UTC 2010 |
Grex has already decided to discontinue dial up connections. They decided
that wen they: 1.) failed to upgrade the old 14.4k modems (who's going to
connect at 14.4k anymore. and 2.) installed a new system where dial up file
transfer is slower and more difficult.
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tonster
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response 28 of 115:
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Apr 19 02:34 UTC 2010 |
really, if you're still using dial-up to connect to grex you're doing
something wrong. There's just no reason not to use another ISP and
telnet/ssh/browser here.
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