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keesan
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response 4 of 332:
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Sep 24 23:31 UTC 2003 |
We went through something similar trying to figure out how I could gain
weight, counting the calories. Fruit and vegetables are mostly water - eat
all you want of those. Bread is a good way to gain weight.
One way to lose weight is not to eat anything you have not cooked for
yourself. No restaurants, no take-out, no frozen pizzas, etc. No prepared
foods - start with single ingredients. Don't keep things around that don't
need preparing except for low-calorie things like fruit.
Avoid refined foods, which includes butter and sugar. These two don't give
you much that you need besides calories.
Eat vegan - even the less fatty types of meat and cheese are high calorie.
Get a pressure cooker for beans.
Eat whole-grain - it takes longer to chew and digest and you feel full longer.
I am currently trying to eat a lot of bread and cheese, adding olive oil to
everything, drinking milk, eating every couple of hours even if not hungry.
You should be doing the opposite. Drink water if thirsty. Stay busy with
things outside instead of eating.
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jaklumen
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Sep 25 00:46 UTC 2003 |
resp:3 well, to comment on that, if you do need to lose weight, you'll
reach it sooner than I. I've posted recent pictures, so...
Everyone's got a different idea on how to lose weight, frankly. I
think you'll have to find what works for you, Sapna. I think the most
important things to remember is that it involves a lifestyle change
and therefore, you need to find some kind of plan you can stick to for
the rest of your life.
Julie has lost 30 pounds with the Carbohydrate Addict's Diet... my
progress is more gradual. But this is not for everyone... we eat
quite a bit of meat. I think Sindi's advice probably fits a broader
range of people. BUT more importantly, if you're serious, and want
some help, I'd ask your doctor, and consider seeing a nutritionist. A
nutritionist is the one best qualified to evaluate what you are eating
and determine what you should eat... and your physician can help you
overall, as well as recommend a good exercise program.
I bought a scale that measures weight and body fat percentages with my
past birthday money and weigh in every morning. Every so often, Julie
takes some body measurements with a tape, too-- hips, waist, arm,
thigh. Julie charts the percentages, weights, and numbers on a
graph. Keep in mind that we look at the graph over time. You should
bear this in mind, too. Most of the time, you should be paying
attention to how your clothes are fitting you than what the scale
says. My numbers weren't going down fast, but Julie said my clothes
were fitting more loosely when she helped me rush off to work.
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jaklumen
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response 6 of 332:
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Sep 25 00:50 UTC 2003 |
btw, if you want to be 'svelte', consider a exercise program that
combines aerobics with weight training. Aerobics will help trim your
body, while a solid weight training program can shape and tone your
body. Take a look at any of Joyce Vedral's books, such as "Bottoms
Up" or "The Fat-Burning Workout."
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dah
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response 7 of 332:
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Sep 25 00:52 UTC 2003 |
I only like writers whose last names are Joyce.
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response 8 of 332:
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Sep 25 01:01 UTC 2003 |
Before eating a meal or snack, drink a large quantity (.5l or more) of a
calorie-free-and-tastes-like-it liquid (water, unsweetened tea, etc.).
Put another one or two further into any large meal, and don't keep eating
for an extended period.
(The idea's to avoid consuming wet calories because you're thirsty, and
to convince your stomach that it's full.)
Arrange your life so you have to walk more.
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rcurl
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response 9 of 332:
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Sep 25 01:04 UTC 2003 |
Also so that you are usually near a lavatory.
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dah
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response 10 of 332:
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Sep 25 01:13 UTC 2003 |
That can cause bladder problems, i.
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glenda
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response 11 of 332:
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Sep 25 01:59 UTC 2003 |
I am currently doing a free online class at Barnes and Noble University. The
text that is being used is "Diet Simple" by Katherine Tallmadge (she is also
the instructor for the class.) She is a nuitritionist and weight loss expert.
Unlike most, she has been through it herself. I really like the book. It
is full of tips, suggestions, and substitutions. i.e. replace one sugared
soft drink with water a day and loose 17-22 pounds a year, replace the
afternoon candy bar or ice cream sundae with a fresh fruit with 1 tablespoon
of regular chocolate syrup sundae and loose 9-35 pounds a year, etc. It is
one of the best diet books I have seen in a long, long time.
She suggests keeping a food diary for a week without really trying to diet.
(She has found that having to write it down makes you more aware of exacting
what, when, and why you are eating and you make changes without thinking about
it.) After a week, look at it and evaluate what and when. You have started
this process by using fitday.com. I use it, too. It makes it easy to track
everything. You periodically evaluate the food diary. Also think about what
you are eating. Sometimes you really do need that brownie, but think about
the caloric consequences before eating it, do an inner test to see if you
really feel that the bit of enjoyment you will get from it is worth the
calorie hit you will take. If it is, enjoy it to its fullest. Savor every
crumb. I am a choco-holic. I rarely pass chocolate up. Using this approach,
there are days that I say, "no, it really isn't worth it." Other days it is.
As long it is under conscious control, rather than auto-pilot, it is ok to
have a high/empty calorie treat on occasion. I have found that this has
reduced my chocolate from 1-2 candy bars per day during the week, to less than
one a week. A major win for me. Little tiny things can add up in the long
run.
Good luck. I will cheer you on, and be support if you slip.
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mynxcat
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response 12 of 332:
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Sep 25 02:56 UTC 2003 |
Thanks for all your tips and kind words.
Jamie, thank you for your vote of confidence :) But it _has_ been close to
a year since you last saw me.. and though I'm still nowhere close to being
a candidate for rotunda.com, I have reached a point where I am definitely not
happy with my weight and body shape. I don't think my goal is unrealistic.
Sindi, your suggestions made a lot of sense. I have made it a goal to prepare
all my meals and cut down on restaurant or pre-cooked foods. I know bread is
a great way to put on weight, which is a pity since I LOVE bread. But a lot
of your suggestions were simple enough to follow, and made good sense.
Jon, thanks for your comments and advice. What is the Carbohydrate-Addict's
diet. I just might need that :P And I am working out an exercise program that
embodies both aerobics and weight trainng. I may join the YMCA, seeing that
the universal gym in th apartment complex is broken.
Walter, it is my goal to drink more water. I realise my daily water intake
is nowhere close to the suggested requirements. For some reason, I do not like
the taste of water in this country :P Don't know what it is. I can drink it
if it's iced, but with the weather changing that's becoming more difficult.
Can I count the water in tea as part of my water intake?
Glenda, another fitday person, Yay! I like it well enough, mainly becuase it
lets me keep track of what I'm eating and gives me an idea of how many
calories I'm ingesting. Not too bad for a fre online tool.
Today's weigh-in this morning put me at 158 lbs. I'm blaming pre-menstrual
bloating for that.
Did some tummy trimming exercises and stretches this morning. Though it didn't
feel like it was doing anything while I was doing them, the stretch in my
muscles after the exercises left me feeling quite satisfied. And I was more
awake after I did them, which is an addd benefit. the evening's exercise was
about 12 minutes on the treadmill which recorded a calorie loss of 126, 10
minutes on the stepper at level 1, which recorded 45 calories, 10 calories
on the rowing machine. Di some weight training for my arms with the free
weights bar and the dumb-bells, mainly for the triceps and the biceps. Then
I discovered the universal gym was broken. I may have to look into how to use
the free-weights to work out my lower body.
Dinner was a little heavier than I would have liked it to be because we had
company over. Which leads me to ask, how do I calculate the caloric content
of the food I eat. Most of the food I eat is India cooking and I haven't found
caloric content of Indian dishes anywhere. Do I just add up all the calories
of the raw ingredients for a rough estimate. Do the foods' caloric content
change with preparation? (apart from calories added from cooking fat etc)
I have been making decisions before I eat foods based on satisfaction vs
calories. The 192 calorie cookie was definitely not worth it. I would have
been just as happy with 2 saltine crackers at 24 calories. I prefer salted
snacks to sweet ones - bagels over donuts, crackers over cookies - and wish
that nutri-grain bars did not come with sweetened flavorings.
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glenda
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Sep 25 03:49 UTC 2003 |
That's one of the problems I have. We do a lot of Asian cooking: Indian,
Chinese, Thai, Indonesian, etc. We also do a lot of Mexican. I have a
reasonable food count book, but the only Mexican and Chinese listing are for
either chain restaurants or frozen foods. No Indian or other Asian. I just
figure out how much for each ingredient in the entire dish and figure what
percentage of the dish I ate. Not exact, but I really don't need exact, just
a good ballpark. Caloric content does change with preparation. Boiling
versus baking versus frying. Boiling also removes vitamins. The main thing
is to try to burn more than you take in.
Walking all over campus is helping, as well as I stay on my feet and move
around a lot while working as TA in computer classes. I started Tai Chi
yesterday. Not particularly for the exercise, though that is a plus, but for
the stress relief, improve flexibility (bad joints), and to just MOVE. I miss
not walking to school. I was nice when we lived 1.25 miles from school, that
meant at least 2.5 miles each school/work day. Now we live too far away, and I
miss the walk. With all the trash the UofM students leave on the sidewalks and
roadside around here it really isn't too wise to do much walking. I have
stepped on things just walking to the house from where I have to park the car,
which have caused me to take nasty falls and twisted ankles. Walking for
pleasure or exercise and risking another injury just doesn't seem to be suited
for this area.
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keesan
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response 14 of 332:
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Sep 25 03:52 UTC 2003 |
Calorie content does not change from that of the ingredients unless you are
boiling things and some of the calories go into the water. (This probably
explains why canned vegetables have slightly fewer calories per ounce than
fresh ones in our list.) Get a kitchen scale and weigh things as you add them
to what you are cooking.
The amount of oil used in cooking makes a large difference.
Rice and potatoes, not just bread, are high in calories. Try having a higher
proportion of vegetables to other things in your meal, as that will fill you
up without many calories. Brown rice takes longer to digest and will keep
you feeling full faster, also takes longer to chew.
You can buy a small water filter that attaches to a kitchen sink faucet
(screws on) at a hardware store to make the water taste better. You can also
cook with less salt so as not to need to drink as much. Whenever I eat
restaurant or prepared food I get very thirsty and drink several glasses of
water - with our cooking I don't need to drink water.
It is said that sugar makes you hungry for more sugar. Eat fruit.
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mynxcat
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Sep 25 04:28 UTC 2003 |
I've noticed that a large part of my daily intake is carbs. What's the
recommended amount of carbs I should be having. Seems like everything I'm
eating is high in carbs.
As of now I'm keeping an eye on how much of the dish I'm eating and the
ingredients that go into it. This includes the oil that is used to cook (298
calories just for 2 tbspn of cooking oil seems a lot) This seems to give me
some sort of ball-park figure which works good enough.
My diet at home is mostly vegetarisn as my fiance is vegetarian. I will
occasionally have salmon or shrimp and sometimes tilapia. My meat intake is
limited to lunch at work, which I have been watching religiously the last
couple of days. Must remember to get brown rice when the current batch os
over, though the fiance is not a big fan.
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scg
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Sep 25 05:24 UTC 2003 |
What worked for me, in combination. I have no idea how much any of these
alone would have done:
Give up driving. I didn't really give it up, but limited it to situations
where there was no other good way to get where I wanted to go, so no driving
to the grocery store or other local shopping, no shopping in suburban strip
malls (other than the Target that has a train station at the other end of its
parking lot), no driving to work, etc. When I was working upstairs from a
train station, this translated to using my car maybe two or three times a
month. Working in a somewhat wider variety of locations, I find I'm using
my car maybe twice a week, on average. This approach used to sound limiting
to me, but mostly the places I can get to by walking are more interesting than
the places I can get to by driving.
Give up soft drinks. I used to always keep a glass or can of rootbeer on my
desk, and be drinking it constantly. After a while I decided this was making
me feel rather sick, and switched to water. Really rapid weight loss
followed, which was a pleasant side effect but mostly not the goal behind that
particular move. I followed that by mostly giving up other products
containing refined sugar, but I still like cookies or ice cream occasionally.
Sugary drinks just seem gross to me at this point.
Find a fun physical activity, and build a social life around it. For me,
that's biking. I like biking down hills, and I like spending time with the
people I bike with, so biking up hills (hard physical activity) becomes part
of life. When I've attempted exercise for the sake of exercise, I've never
been at all good at keeping it up.
Don't limit yourself. If I want to do something, building a lifestyle around
not doing that thing isn't something I'm going to stick with. Everybody
always starts off this discussion with the importance of healthy, home cooked,
food, for example. But I'm not that great a cook, and I live in a
neighborhood famous for its restaurants. I'm always going to be consuming
calories. The key is just to burn off what I consume. See fun physical
activity paragraph.
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sj2
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response 17 of 332:
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Sep 25 12:03 UTC 2003 |
Ho!! Wait. I once got in a big arguement with mooncat (Anne Perry)
because I looked at her picture and commmented that she had a little
fat around her waist (I didn't call her fat and even said she looks
beautiful). What I got was a big lecture over not calling american
women fat!!!
But its ok for an american woman to call herself fat??
Hmmmm ... so what I do learn out of all this?? ;-) :D
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jp2
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response 18 of 332:
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Sep 25 12:11 UTC 2003 |
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sj2
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response 19 of 332:
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Sep 25 12:24 UTC 2003 |
Did you see http://goatse.cx ?
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mynxcat
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response 20 of 332:
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Sep 25 12:47 UTC 2003 |
I am not American, I'm Indian. Being called fat is a personal thing. Sure that
comment did zing at first, but it was the truth, and I realise it. Each woman
has their own body shape, and some are a little thicker than others. I, for
one, know I can be 22 lbs thinner at least, I've been there. (Even then
Ithought I could lose a few lbs, but I'd be happy just ggetting there right
now :P)
And why is it that you're not supposed to call "American" women fat? It's ok
to call European, Australian, Arican, Chinese, Indian women fat? Though
compared to Indian women, American women are bombardd much more with size 0
models, and the pressure on them to be thinner has been greater. Indian women
have always had pudgy, hip-heavy role models, though that's changing with the
latest slew of actresses that we have. But even in school, we were never
really under any pressure to be a certain body-shape. i think it's different
over here. I remember my cousin saying she'd die if she put on another pound.
This frm a 14 year old girl who had teh flattest tummy and was the skinnest
person I knew at the time. Maybe it's die to this pressure women have had to
grow up that you're not supposed to call American women fat? I don't know.
Personally, I don't think you should call *any* woman fat, unless you know
she really could be thiner and it's sheer laziness that's keeping her from
being fit. My fiance's been trying to nudge me on the right direction for
months. "hitcher", the poster on my site, prolly didn't have any right to say
it (I don't know who he is. If he turns out ot be someone I knew in my thinner
days, maybe he had some ground. If he's just someone who visits my site, it
would be highly rude, but it was teh truth, and it did provide the last straw
that broke the camel's back.
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mynxcat
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response 21 of 332:
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Sep 25 12:55 UTC 2003 |
Haha Jamie, made you look
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mynxcat
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response 22 of 332:
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Sep 25 13:02 UTC 2003 |
Steve, I wish I could give pu the car. But Columbus has virtually no public
transport, and definitely none from where I live to my place of wor. I do need
to drive everywhere. (My theory on why people in NYC are so much fitter than
people in the mid-west - they walk everywhere, food portiona are smaller, and
beer being $7.00 for 2 at the "convenience" store, who can fford to drink?)
And I do not drink soft-drinks. Never liked the aerated stuff, so that's one
less thing to cut from my diet. Which is a pity. Just by dropping soft-drinks,
I could drop a few lbs. But I do not have that option :(
Weigh-in this morning was 156lbs. I think. I shall invest in a digital scale
so I don't have to squint trying to figure out where the needle is pointing,
and wonderingi f the damn thing is calibrated right. Also, I'm aware that body
weight fluctuates daily. I'll prolly go by weekly number, buit a daily
weigh-in just makes the process "easier"?
The fiance got me a slice of coffee-cake yesterday. According to fitday.com,
1 cubic inch is 15 Ok, again - according to fitday.com, 1 cubic inch is about
16 alories, and 1 gram of fat. Can this really be true? Can coffee cake be
sooo satisfyingly low cal. (1 cubic inch is enough at a time) and what does
(NFS) next to teh food name mean, Glenda? Anyone?
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lynne
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Sep 25 15:03 UTC 2003 |
Boston is similar to New York that way--it takes about as long to walk as it
does to drive over, swear at all the idiots that are clogging the roads,
and find a parking space which you then have to pay through the nose for.
And yet, I've managed to gain about 15 pounds over the past year without
consciously changing what I eat. Maybe it's the dreaded mid-twenties
metabolic slowdown? Or medication, which I stopped taking about 3 weeks
ago.
(NFS=national food service?) I'd guess that coffee cake varies widely in
caloric content according to preparation--would be leery of trusting the
16 calories number. I'd go with the numbers on the nutritional info label,
if available.
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mynxcat
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Sep 25 15:15 UTC 2003 |
Unfortunately the coffee-cake came from a bakery. No nutritonal label.
I thought maybe NFS meant No Fat Substitutes. Dunno
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glenda
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Sep 25 15:38 UTC 2003 |
I haven't figured that out yet. I intend to poke around the site a bit more.
Someday. When I have time. (Yeah, right. I have already forgotten what
sleep is, where do I find more time. :-)
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dah
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response 26 of 332:
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Sep 25 15:56 UTC 2003 |
Holy shit 156?! You must be short or anorexic.
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lynne
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response 27 of 332:
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Sep 25 16:32 UTC 2003 |
(sapna: for what it's worth, 150 is just about my ideal weight. :))
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mynxcat
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response 28 of 332:
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Sep 25 16:46 UTC 2003 |
I'm 5'7". Definitely t anorexic. I can definitely see the fat on my tummy and
posterior, and am borderlining the healthy weight for my height and body type.
I've never had illusions of being too fat, if anything it's the opposite. I
tend to think I'm thinner than I am (which explains how I got here) 157 lbs
would have been ok, if I was also fit to go along with it. But I have more
flab than I care to know about and am definitely not eating healthy and my
stamina is shot.
I've been looking at fitday and 10 minutes of walking at about 3.5 mph burns
about 33 calories. Chatelaine says "running" at 3.8 mph is about 173 calories
for 10 minutes. My treadmill says its 120 calories or thereabouts, but of
course it doesn't know whether I'm runniong or walking at a very brisk pace.
Does the number of calories burnt actuall ychange with the fact that you're
walking or running? I think that's pretty interesting. And also leads me to
think that I'm burning a lot less calories than I think I am.
(I don't like running much, and definitely not on the treadmill. I can never
seem to keep in line with the damn thing. And I don't have the stamina for
it)
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