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Grex > Coop11 > #87: Spring '99 Plan the Budget Meeting | |
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janc
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response 4 of 28:
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Mar 25 23:27 UTC 1999 |
Right - the short-term plan is easy.
But we still need a long-term plan.
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remmers
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response 5 of 28:
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Mar 26 12:09 UTC 1999 |
I'm not sure we need a meeting just to discuss short-term plans. Do
folks think it would be reasonable to morph the plan-the-budget meeting
into more of a "plan-the-future" meeting, focusing on long-term hardware
and software goals? For this to work, the staff members who specialize
in those issues would need to attend.
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mdw
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response 6 of 28:
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Mar 27 02:43 UTC 1999 |
Actually, it's possible to run SunOS 4.1.4 on a Sparcstation 20 - I've
even seen one that's apparently successfully running dual processors.
So it's actually not true that the 670 was the last machine sun made
that could run sunos 4.1 -- it's just the last VME bus machine, and
possibly one of the last machines designed to run sunos 4.1 instead of
solaris 2.
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devnull
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response 7 of 28:
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Mar 27 05:26 UTC 1999 |
I really doubt you want to seperate the http server from the main login
server. It looks like you might want to seperate the mail functionality,
but AFAIK you probalby aren't planning to buy a new piece of hardware to make
that happen.
A bit of a surplus is certainly a good thing. I don't want to see grex
end up with the constant fundraising that m-net has.
If there's consistently a lot of surplus money, the obvious thing to do is
buy a faster connection to the internet. But I don't think that there's
such excess of money.
I suspect that it will be easier to acquire better, faster computers than
it will be to get a faster net connection.
I don't think it's really a problem if there's no grand vision for the future.
grex has been doing good things, and it can continue to do those things.
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mdw
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response 8 of 28:
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Mar 28 05:50 UTC 1999 |
I think I "should" enter my ideas for a grand master hardware plan...
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remmers
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response 9 of 28:
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Mar 28 13:42 UTC 1999 |
Yes, please do. That'll get the ball rolling on discussion.
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richard
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response 10 of 28:
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Apr 1 00:13 UTC 1999 |
In the meantime, maybe grex should invest that $1800 in mutual funds.
Open of a non-profit mutual fund account through a broker/dealer, and
invest in some shares of a few lowrisk funds. Grex could compile a small
portfolio and probably bring in at least a few dollars more in interest
every month than it makes keeping the extra money in the bank. And
potentially, in the long run, grex could see some real profits in its
investments.
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keesan
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response 11 of 28:
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Apr 1 00:47 UTC 1999 |
Mark is about to invest in a mutual fund, see the item on changing banks.
A very low-risk money market fund (the shares are almost guaranteed not to
change in value, interest varies and is a bit lower than riskier funds).
Estimated interest is about 4-5%, or over $100/year.
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aruba
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response 12 of 28:
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Apr 1 00:56 UTC 1999 |
]:
(Money markets and mutual funds are disjoint categories, I believe.)
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keesan
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response 13 of 28:
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Apr 1 01:01 UTC 1999 |
I thought a mutual fund was anything that lots of people invested in jointly,
thereby sharing the profits and the risks. Anyone know for sure?
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toking
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response 14 of 28:
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Apr 1 11:15 UTC 1999 |
O.K. I'm sorry for putting this here...but either I"m going crazy or
somehow all of the responces I've read today have be transformed into
some bizarre sort of old english where "the" is "ye" and "Your" (if I
remember right... your ) is "thy"
this hurts...I'm sorry
...I'll shut up
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davel
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response 15 of 28:
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Apr 1 11:23 UTC 1999 |
You haven't noticed what day it is yet, have you, Joe?
Set your pager to something else & you'll see things as they are. (My pager
isn't doing the stuff you're seeing ... though I'm still somehow seeing the
bizarre rseps, such as "Rane Curl Ringworld Rane" and "Jan Wolter Jedi Jan".)
Or wait until tomorrow, and do "read since 4/1" to reread everything in a more
normal fashion.
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toking
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response 16 of 28:
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Apr 1 12:29 UTC 1999 |
I realized what wa sup shortly after I posted that...felt like a moron
even :) (nd you can change your pager in backtalk)
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keesan
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response 17 of 28:
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Apr 2 23:44 UTC 1999 |
How did the jokers manage to program this one? There did not seem to be any
way to correctly select thou and thy for the different 'you's, but they did
a pretty good job with verbs. It should be dost thou not do thou, like art
thou. Clever. Except it might possibly have offended a retired friend that
we were introducing to grex that day to see people called Ancient. I
explained it was just an April Fool's joke.
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davel
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response 18 of 28:
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Apr 3 14:29 UTC 1999 |
April 1 is *definitely* not the day to introduce most people to Grex. (I
remember the one where responses trailed out into "blah blah blah" after 3
or 4 lines.)
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remmers
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response 19 of 28:
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Apr 4 12:45 UTC 1999 |
Heh. The first couple of years Grex was in operation, I did the April
Fool stunts. The first one -- the infamous "Mary Poppins Filter" --
seemed genuinely traumatizing to a couple of people, although I didn't
intend it that way.
Getting back to the topic of this item -- any further thoughts on budget
planning?
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hhsrat
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response 20 of 28:
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Apr 4 18:12 UTC 1999 |
(just for a relative newbie, what was the infamous "Mary Poppins
Filter"?)
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remmers
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response 21 of 28:
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Apr 5 09:42 UTC 1999 |
(Should we tell him? ;-)
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davel
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response 22 of 28:
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Apr 6 01:11 UTC 1999 |
(Yes, please. I don't know either, & I've been around a while.)
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remmers
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response 23 of 28:
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Apr 6 17:05 UTC 1999 |
The Mary Poppins filter was a little program that I wrote and
installed as the default pager in Agora on April 1, 1992. When-
ever the name "Mary Poppins" showed up in a response, it would
replace it by the name of the person reading the response. So
if a response contained the sentence "Mary Poppins sprinkles
pepper on her tea", then John Smith would see "John Smith sprinkles
pepper on her tea" and Sue Brown would see "Sue Brown sprinkles
pepper on her tea". A lot of folks got the impression they were
being talked about when they really weren't. Good for instilling
paranoia.
I'd first tried out this filter on M-Net, several years before
Grex existed. It was inspired by a a conversation between myself
and Brian Howard (then bdh, now bdh1) at a Picofest. I forget which
of us first suggested the idea.
Hm, what a digression. Maybe we should get back to planning the
meeting to plan the budget?
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lilmo
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response 24 of 28:
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Apr 16 23:02 UTC 1999 |
Wasn't marcus going to enter his ideas for the software/hardware future of
Grex? What are others' thoughts? (I'm thinking here esp. of the staff who
would be implementing said ideas...)
MM funds can be "Money Market Mutual Funds", if I recall correctly...
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remmers
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response 25 of 28:
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Apr 17 11:05 UTC 1999 |
The tentatively suggested date - April 18 - for a plan-the-budget
meeting is almost upon us. The sense I get is that we're not ready
for it. I'm inclined to agree with Jan in resp:2 that some planning of
Grex's technical future is needed before we can make long-range budget
plans. Does anyone feel differently?
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aruba
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response 26 of 28:
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Apr 17 12:49 UTC 1999 |
I agree - there don't seem to be enough suggestions in this item to decide on
our priorities.
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janc
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response 27 of 28:
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Apr 18 18:07 UTC 1999 |
Yup, today was the tentatively scheduled date. There really doesn't
seem to be much to discuss. I've heard a rumor that Marcus has a draft
plan, but I haven't seen it. So we should probably postpone this until
we have some ideas.
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remmers
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response 28 of 28:
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Apr 19 13:56 UTC 1999 |
I'll put a long-range planning item on the next Board meeting agenda.
(Since the next meeting is on April 27 - a week from tomorrow - I'll
post an agenda item in the next day or two.)
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