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polygon
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response 399 of 536:
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Dec 9 02:19 UTC 2003 |
Conservative columnist endorses Dean over Bush
http://sierratimes.com/03/12/05/ar_carlworden.htm
From The Sierra Times, "An Internet Publication for Real Americans"
President Howard Dean
Carl F. Worden
When I wrote, "Another One-Termer Like Dad?" several months ago, I
began my treatise with the words, "If the Democrats play their cards
right, and if President George W. Bush extends the federal Assault
Weapon Ban that was signed into law by former President Bill Clinton,
then I am going to predict that George W. Bush will be a one-term
war-hero president just like his father."
Well, whether by hook or crook, and whether intended or not, the
Democrats are playing their cards right. That article and my
predictions were right on the money, even to extent that I foretold,
"If the Democrats do something truly stupid, like run a raving liberal
like Al Gore or Hillary Clinton for president, then Bush 43 has maybe
an even chance. But if the Democrats run a moderate, southern pro-gun
candidate who promises not to use the Constitution as toilet paper,
then I can predict with complete confidence that a Democrat, or
possibly even a third-party candidate, will occupy the White House
after the next presidential election."
Get ready for President Howard Dean. No he's not a moderate, southern
pro-gun candidate. Instead, he's a former Vermont governor from the
north. Everything else falls right into line: He is a moderate
Democrat who is also a pro-gun candidate who promises not to use the
Constitution as toilet paper.
Dean is adamantly against the war in Iraq. Dean is conservatively
pro-gun. Dean is soft on abortion and he is a moderate Democrat
socialist to the extent that he believes government is responsible for
taking care of those who are either mentally or physically unable to
care for themselves. In that light, he's the perfect candidate to take
residence in the White House following the coming November elections.
Unless Howard Dean screws up in some spectacular way, or unless Dean
dies in another suspicious airplane accident, Howard Dean will be the
next president of the United States. Mark my words.
Dean is the perfect candidate for election in 2004. George W. Bush has
divided the Republican Party into two distinct groups. They comprise
the phony and fascist Neo-Conservatives who mistakenly embraced the
perpetually wrong philosophy that the ends justify the means, ala
Clinton. To them, if Clinton could get away with it, why shouldn.t
they? Their error has manifested itself via a disastrous war on Iraq
that was never constitutionally declared by Congress, and the
blatantly and irrefutably unconstitutional Patriot Act.
Both the moderate Democrats and the true American Christian
conservatives have found themselves in surprising and stunning
agreement on these issues.
If you leave out religious conviction ala the abortion debate, which
is entirely the province of the judiciary at this time anyway, and
hone in on constitutional principle only, moderate Democrats and
right-wing, true Christian conservatives, are in unexpected agreement:
We have yet another Viet Nam on our hands, and our kids are being
unnecessarily killed as a result of it.
History will prove those kids died in vain, just like all those 58,000
kids killed in Viet Nam: Viet Nam is still a communist nation, and we
have reinstated full diplomatic and trade relations with them. In that
light, every one of those kids died for NOTHING, and the same will be
said of those being killed right now in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The true American conservatives who once commanded the Republican
Party, are horrified by what Bush has done, and many of them,
including myself, have vowed never to support Bush again, even if we
have to vote for a third party candidate that has little chance of
winning.
To the truly committed, truly Christian conservative, George W. Bush
is a traitor, a completely phony Christian, and just another
politician who placed his left hand on the Bible, raised his right
hand to God, and swore to uphold and defend a Constitution he had
every intention of violating -- if the "situation" warranted it.
If there is one thing that true conservatives share, it is their solid
and unwavering conviction to do what is both lawful and right, both
under the law, and in the eyes of our God. In that light, our current
president is woefully unfaithful, and in fact, treasonous to our
Constitution.
A president who personally declares a United States citizen an enemy
combatant, ineligible for legal counsel or to face his accusers and
their evidence against him, even though he was arrested on U.S. soil
and never carried a weapon against U.S. forces or their allies, is a
domestic enemy of the people of the United States. True Christian
conservatives understood that the moment he issued the order.
True Americans with solid constitutional convictions were outraged by
that, and they immediately knew they had a problem in the White House.
I don't know what Howard Dean's religious convictions, if any, hold
to. But it doesn't matter in this case. Here we have a pro-gun
candidate who is against this disastrous war in Iraq, and he is a
candidate intent on principle to uphold he personal convictions. I
like him, and for the first time in my life, I will vote for a
Democrat, Howard Dean, to be my next president next November.
If he's still alive.
Carl F. Worden
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klg
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response 400 of 536:
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Dec 9 03:48 UTC 2003 |
Same "Carl Worden" as mentioned in this 2002 item the Anti-Defamation
League did on "militias?" If so, nice try, but no cigar.
The Militia Movement
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Origins: Mid-to-late 1993
Prominent leaders: John Trochmann (Montana), Ron Gaydosh (Michigan),
Randy Miller (Texas), Charlie Puckett (Kentucky), Mark Koernke
(Michigan), Carl Worden (Oregon), Gib Ingwer (Ohio)
Prominent groups: Kentucky State Militia, Ohio Unorganized Militia
Assistance and Advisory Committee, Southeastern Ohio Defense Force,
Michigan Militia (two factions using the same name), Southern Indiana
Regional Militia, Southern California High Desert Militia-and many
others
Outreach: Gun shows, shortwave radio, newsletters, the Internet
Ideology: Anti-government and conspiracy-oriented in nature; prominent
focus on firearms
Prominent militia arrests: Multiple members of the following groups
have been arrested and convicted, usually on weapons, explosives, or
conspiracy charges: Oklahoma Constitutional Militia, Georgia Republic
Militia, Arizona Viper Militia, Washington State Militia, West
Virginia Mountaineer Militia, Twin Cities Free Militia, North American
Militia, San Joaquin County Militia.
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gull
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response 401 of 536:
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Dec 9 14:32 UTC 2003 |
When you get wayyyy out on the right, out past most of the GOP and into
the libertarian fringe, political party loyalties get hazy and don't
work quite the way you'd normally expect. That's why I find right-wing
political shortwave broadcasts so fascinating.
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tod
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response 402 of 536:
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Dec 9 18:43 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 403 of 536:
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Dec 9 19:41 UTC 2003 |
And having their silver-amalgam fillings removed.
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happyboy
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response 404 of 536:
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Dec 9 20:43 UTC 2003 |
haw! you people have NO IDEA.
/closes the curtains, shuts off the light
& hunkers down with bru to lissen to the
police scanner while cleaning our guns
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slynne
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response 405 of 536:
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Dec 9 21:59 UTC 2003 |
I'm scared
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goose
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response 406 of 536:
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Dec 9 23:49 UTC 2003 |
RE#403 -- Could you elaborate? (I thought silver-amalgam fillngs were a good
thing to have replaced..)
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klg
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response 407 of 536:
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Dec 10 17:10 UTC 2003 |
Algore has issued his presidential endorsement. "I've seen a candidate
who has what it takes to reach out to the independent, mainstream
Americans who will make the difference . . . particularly in the
South," Gore said. "He's going to send George Bush packing and bring
the Democratic Party home."
(It didn't seem to help a lot when he said that about Michael Dukakis
in 1988. Any reason to think it'll be more use to Dean this time
around?------By the way, at least in 1988 he didn't stab his loyal,
former runningmate in the back.)
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twenex
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response 408 of 536:
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Dec 10 17:19 UTC 2003 |
Be sure to put that in Al Gora.
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gull
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response 409 of 536:
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Dec 10 18:42 UTC 2003 |
Re resp:406: A lot of fringe types believe that the mercury in
silver-amalgam fillings is dangerous. They also won't get vaccinated
because of mercury-based preservatives used in some vaccines. I'm not
aware of any mainstream medical science backing up those claims.
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tod
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response 410 of 536:
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Dec 10 19:24 UTC 2003 |
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klg
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response 411 of 536:
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Dec 10 20:37 UTC 2003 |
Shucks!
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richard
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response 412 of 536:
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Dec 10 20:47 UTC 2003 |
#410..tod why do you say that? I think Gore's endorsement only helps Dean.
Gore got 500,000 more votes than Bush in the last election, he won the popular
election. He is the uncrowned champion. His endorsement carries a lot of
clout within the party. That said, Dean didn't really need Gore's
endorsement, he was already doing just fine without it
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klg
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response 413 of 536:
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Dec 10 20:57 UTC 2003 |
(Certainly it must, Mr. richard! Look at how effective Gore's
endorsement was in the 1988 election. Didn't Mr. Bush lose that
election, too?)
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gelinas
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response 414 of 536:
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Dec 10 21:23 UTC 2003 |
(Fifteen years ago, Gore was just another senator. Things have changed a bit
since then.)
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tod
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response 415 of 536:
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Dec 10 21:26 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 416 of 536:
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Dec 10 21:47 UTC 2003 |
A Clark vs. Bush race would be interesting. Or Lieberman vs. Bush.
I've always wondered what would happen if two Republicans ran against
each other for President.
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scott
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response 417 of 536:
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Dec 10 23:36 UTC 2003 |
Interesting, anyway. Lieberman tends to rub me the wrong way for some reason,
but not as much as Bush. Dean or Clark would be interesting.
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jp2
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response 418 of 536:
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Dec 10 23:59 UTC 2003 |
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rcurl
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response 419 of 536:
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Dec 11 01:03 UTC 2003 |
Lieberman is too sanctimonious for me. He is less so, though, than
Bush.
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richard
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response 420 of 536:
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Dec 11 07:10 UTC 2003 |
The problem is that Kerry, Lieberman, and Gephardt are traditional democrats.
They symbolize the Democratic leadership in Congress in the nineties when the
Demcrats became the minority party there. They do not inspire any passion.
People don't care about them, they see them as politics as usual, and I do
not think they will vote out Bush in favor of someone who represents the
same-old same-old
Dean inspires a great deal of passion, particularly among younger voters.
Gore recognizes this. He recognizes that the party can't beat Bush without
a candidate they can get passionate about. They can't get passionate about
and aren't getting passionate about these others. It is Dean that has the
grass roots movement behind him and that means it is Dean who has the best
chance to beat Bush. General Clark is the only alternative IMO and I think
there is too much distrust of the military among the party's rank and file
to nominate a general.
But what does that leave for the strongest ticket, the ticket that could
inspire the most independent voters, and the most new voters, logically a
Dean/Clark ticket. Face it, if Gephardt or Kerry run against Bush, a lot of
voters won't care. They'll stay home. They'll see the same-old same-old.
Why replace Bush with one of the Democratic leadership in Congress when many
voters think both sides have failed in recent years? To win, to beat Bush,
the Democrats must give the voters someone different, someone outside
Washington who has shown political skills and the willingness to get right
in Bush's face and stare him down. That is Howard Dean.
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remmers
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response 421 of 536:
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Dec 11 12:30 UTC 2003 |
According to a story in today's New York Times, Bush's advisers are
now assuming that Dean will be his opponent in 2004.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/11/politics/campaigns/11REPU.html?hp
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other
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response 422 of 536:
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Dec 11 15:29 UTC 2003 |
I'm assuming America will be his opponent.
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twenex
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response 423 of 536:
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Dec 11 15:51 UTC 2003 |
rotflmao. How true.
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