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Grex > Oldcoop > #37: New fair witness of the language conference! |  |
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naftee
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response 39 of 78:
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Dec 3 16:19 UTC 2003 |
re 38 Perhaps you are skeptical, but you (or ay other GreX user, for that
matter) have not given any reasons, good or otherwise, against me being FW
of the language conference.
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remmers
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response 40 of 78:
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Dec 3 16:46 UTC 2003 |
I'm not saying that you shouldn't. But the decision should be up to
the participants in the language conference, not the readers of Coop,
and not you. (I'm reading this item in Coop.)
To elaborate on the security issue: If a conference directory contains
a file named "rc" of Picospan commands, those commands are executed
whenever a user joins the conference, unless they have the line "set
nosource" in their .cfonce file. That's how an FW can customize
prompts and other features of a conference.
However, the rc file can contain shell escapes that execute arbitrary
Unix commands *as that user*. Consider the implications of that.
In view of that, I think it would be reasonable for participants of
a conference to consider a user's track record of behavior on the
system in deciding whether or not that user is appropriate fair-
witness material.
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other
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response 41 of 78:
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Dec 3 16:58 UTC 2003 |
Under the circumstances, I'd say that's all the justification needed
for users of that conference to not want asshole, err willcome/
naftee as FW, but I'm willing to let them decide how much rope he
can hang himself with.
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naftee
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response 42 of 78:
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Dec 3 18:44 UTC 2003 |
re 40 Users can always see exactly what a command does in the rc file.
Besides, a user doesn't *HAVE* to type a command if they don't want to.
Additionally, I don't plan on doing stupid tricks as FW such as you described
above.
re 41 I think you should look at yourself before calling other people
assholes. Read it carefully. It's "other people" not "another person".
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remmers
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response 43 of 78:
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Dec 3 19:30 UTC 2003 |
They can see if they know to look. Most users don't.
But I'm out of this discussion insofar as it pertains to fw'ing
Language, since I don't participate in that conference.
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cmcgee
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response 44 of 78:
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Dec 3 19:35 UTC 2003 |
So any other stupid tricks you have done were planned far in advance?
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rcurl
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response 45 of 78:
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Dec 3 20:17 UTC 2003 |
I'm not interested in naftee joining me as a FW of the language conference.
He has not been an active, much less valuable, participant in the conference.
He has also shown that he likes to enter junk responses in other conferences
and has the skills to multiply this in conferences in which he has the
powers of a FW.
There are dozens of inactive conferences, many I think even with FWs
that are not current users. I'd suggest turning one of those over to
naftee, and he can show us what he can do as a FW.
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naftee
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response 46 of 78:
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Dec 4 02:30 UTC 2003 |
The langauge conference, thanks to you, rcurl, is one of those sadly inactive
conferences. Getting defensive isn't going to change that fact. Welcoming
help, however, will.
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rcurl
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response 47 of 78:
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Dec 4 02:55 UTC 2003 |
I'd welcome a co FW if it were a user I could trust not to do infantile or
stupid things.
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naftee
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response 48 of 78:
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Dec 4 03:01 UTC 2003 |
rcurl, you are being replaced. Live with it. You ruined the language
conference. I'm here to fiz your mistakes.
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naftee
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response 49 of 78:
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Dec 4 03:04 UTC 2003 |
fix
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gelinas
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response 50 of 78:
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Dec 4 03:13 UTC 2003 |
As a user of language: No, you aren't, naftee. I see no reason to make you
a fairwitness of this conference.
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willcome
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response 51 of 78:
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Dec 4 03:25 UTC 2003 |
Right, Grex certainly doesn't need new staff members.
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gelinas
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response 52 of 78:
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Dec 4 03:39 UTC 2003 |
Fair witnesses are not staff members.
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willcome
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response 53 of 78:
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Dec 4 03:40 UTC 2003 |
They're semistaff members.
Right. Grex certainly doesn't need to encourage active users.
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davel
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response 54 of 78:
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Dec 4 14:14 UTC 2003 |
Some active users need encouragement. Some are just a plague.
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naftee
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response 55 of 78:
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Dec 5 04:14 UTC 2003 |
re 50 I've given you almost a dozen reasons for why I should be a fairwitness
of the language conference. Care to give me any reasons why I should not be
one?
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gelinas
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response 56 of 78:
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Dec 5 04:53 UTC 2003 |
Yes: #46 and #48.
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willcome
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response 57 of 78:
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Dec 5 05:02 UTC 2003 |
He was just being silly, gelinas. Couldn't you tell by his language?
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gelinas
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response 58 of 78:
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Dec 5 05:34 UTC 2003 |
And how is that different from everything else he (or is it you, under a
different login-id? I've never yet figured that out) has entered here?
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willcome
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response 59 of 78:
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Dec 5 05:38 UTC 2003 |
What's wrong with entering silly stuff?
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gelinas
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response 60 of 78:
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Dec 5 05:43 UTC 2003 |
Nothing, as an occasional change of pace. But when it is all (or even almost
all) someone enters, the resulting impression is . . . silliness, unrelieved
silliness.
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willcome
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response 61 of 78:
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Dec 5 06:52 UTC 2003 |
Your age is showing, gelinas.
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gelinas
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response 62 of 78:
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Dec 5 07:18 UTC 2003 |
As is yours.
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davel
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response 63 of 78:
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Dec 5 13:21 UTC 2003 |
In any case, it's not a strong qualification for FWing.
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