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tonster
response 39 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 02:44 UTC 2003

I should think that bouillon (just boil 1 cube per cup of water) would 
certainly be cheaper.  You can get giant containers ( I think 100 cubes 
or so ) for about $5.
jaklumen
response 40 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 10:10 UTC 2005

New situation, new digs.

We eat oatmeal a lot more frequently now, and remember Sindi and Jim's
tip on cooking it without burning :)  We try to get old-fashioned when
we can, more fiber that way, but we get a lot of quick oats from the
food bank.

Beans are a marvelous thing.  I made a mix from some I had in storage
(some we had gotten from the food bank, again) and added a soup mix to
it which had letter pastas and lentils in it.  I usually soak them
overnight or Julie might boil them if we are pressed for time, and
usually slow cook it until it gets to a chili-like consistency.  I add
spices on hand, of course, but I recently got some dried chiles from the
Farmer's Market that work super.

We don't have it down perfect-- I tend to eat out a lot, usually at
Subway to float between meals.  It is my lazy man's out when I want to
get a lot of veggies and I'm not ready to prepare something.  Of course
I know it is hardly cheap.

I've found frozen foods are really great-- frozen veggies, frozen
fruits-- often cheap and I understand they usually retain their
nutrition a little better than fresh.

We get bulk food now too at the store we usually frequent.  We can
usually get most of our spices there and even 'prepared' foods are a
little more reasonably priced.

It's a work in progress, but we'll get better at it.  Was reading this
again and made a note that I should find Jeff Smith at the library. 
Should be easy to do online and my sister works at our main branch so
getting and returning books is a snap.
twenex
response 41 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 11:06 UTC 2005

BEANZ MEANZ FARTZ
jadecat
response 42 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 15:08 UTC 2005

'Ello! (just joined the conf, so I thought I would say 'ello).


The whole 'eating at home' thing is kind of new for me- but I'm finding
that it can be quite enjoyable.
eprom
response 43 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 16:57 UTC 2005

you can make 2-3 meals out of a Little Caesar $5 hot-n-ready pizza.
jadecat
response 44 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 19:32 UTC 2005

Yes but that's not particularly healthy...
jaklumen
response 45 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 09:53 UTC 2005

resp:41 darn skippy.

resp:43 can never make pizza stretch well... say, when we get a u-bake
pizza it tends to get snarfed.  No, not particularly healthy.  Usually
done for speed and convenience (mostly convenience).
jaklumen
response 46 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 09:56 UTC 2005

almost forgot.

sister brought by the Jeff Smith cookbook from the library.

also found some frugal-type recipes on the Internet, both from the
Frugal Gourmet and from other sources.
keesan
response 47 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 14:16 UTC 2005

If you have a bread machine, you could take fresh-baked bread for lunch
instead of buying Subway sandwiches.  Used machines are quite cheap around
here, Value World had them for $5 or so, and we found a working one at the
curb.  
jadecat
response 48 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 14:20 UTC 2005

Well that requires purchase of stuff to put in sandwiches. and plenty of
time. Hmm, I wonder where in my teeny kitchen I could fit a bread maker...

My Beau and I are having difficulties keeping salad stuff fresh for very
long in our fridge. Gets quite annoying really.
keesan
response 49 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 14:24 UTC 2005

'stuff' has to be cheaper than buying sandwiches.  You can run the bread
machine in another room than the kitchen, where you don't mind the noise, even
the bathroom.  I can't imagine it would take more time to purchase something
to put in sandwiches, than to go to a place that sold them and wait to buy
one every day.  
jadecat
response 50 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 14:39 UTC 2005

It can be- but honestly the problem I often run into is the quanity that
needs buying. If it doesn't get all used up and goes bad than it's a
waste of money. What this really means is that my planning skills need
work. ;) As for the time... when you put it like that, I have to agree
with you.

For the bread machine, I have a fairly good sized apartment- it's just
got stuff in many places- and boxes of books since we only have two
bookshelves. Putting a bread machine somewhere other than the
counter/cupboard isn't likely to happen. And running it... with two
cats, one of whom earned the nickname Danger Boy!, I would rather have
the bread machine running in the kitchen where I can better protect it. ;)
keesan
response 51 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 19:13 UTC 2005

Jim says he runs his bread machine in the garage.  I don't see how a cat could
damage a machine, or vice versa - do they try to open lids?

What do you put into sandwiches that you cannot either buy in smaller amounts,
or freeze?  
jadecat
response 52 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 19:20 UTC 2005

No, not opening lids- chewing cords. I used to joke that my Sasha was a
great mouse hunter- except the mice she killed were connected to computers.

Part of the problem is also that we don't have a great refrigerator-
it's very damp. So things like lettuce, onions and tomatoes (well
they're okay) go bad more quickly than they should. Getting a new fridge
means arguing with the landlord.

As it is we buy 4 tomatos and they go bad before we eat them all.
Usually it's because we're lazy and get the 'bag' salad and that almost
always goes bad before we eat it all. Like I said, poor planning in
terms of what meals will be eaten in the coming week and shopping
accordingly.
keesan
response 53 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 19:44 UTC 2005

Do you keep your vegetables in the plastic bags they come in?  That raises
the humidity a LOT.  Take them out and keep in the vegetable bin (crisper)
or even an open colander.  I have never heard of a refrigerator being too
humid.  The self-defrosting ones have the opposite problem, they dry things
out.  If you are used to those, but have a non-self-defrosting one, get used
to taking things out of bags.  Jim asks if you are putting uncovered foods
in there, which will evaporate and increase the humidity.
jadecat
response 54 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 19:55 UTC 2005

The problem seems to be the freezer automatic defroster- it drips into
the fridge. I actually keep a small bowl in there to catch the
condesation, it gets emptied every few days or so. So that would be
where the humidity comes from. Sadly our fridge really is a joke and
while we try to put the veggies in some other container and in the
crisper they just don't stay crisp.
keesan
response 55 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 20:14 UTC 2005

It sounds like the tube from the freezer to the area below the refrigerator,
which is supposed to drain the melted ice, is clogged, so the water drips onto
the inside of the refrigerator.  It is fairly simple to unclog them with a
pipecleaner or maybe a coat hanger.  This is not condensation collecting, but
melted freezer ice.  We have at least one free refrigerator in good condition
that was thrown out because it had a clog in the drain line.  If you cannot
figure out how to unclog, I will ask Jim for more details, but I think it is
up near the freezer, assuming it is a one-door model.

My crisper is badly designed and rots things because it has no
drain/ventilation holes near the bottom, where the humidity tends to be
highest because cold air sinks.
jadecat
response 56 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 28 20:01 UTC 2005

I'll look at it when I get home- but it is a two door (the freezer has a
separate door from the main fridge).
keesan
response 57 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 29 03:02 UTC 2005

Is the lower compartment also self-defrosting?  
jadecat
response 58 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 29 13:17 UTC 2005

No idea. I'll have to find out.
keesan
response 59 of 68: Mark Unseen   Jul 29 15:49 UTC 2005

If it is, look for a drain tube and clean it out with pipecleaner.  
Or make sure you are not putting uncovered foods in there, which do increase
the humidity and cause condensation.
jaklumen
response 60 of 68: Mark Unseen   Aug 2 10:24 UTC 2005

resp:47 I need to find out about getting some more wheat.  We ground
some wheat in a blender for flour once and we got bread that was sort of
like cracked wheat bread.

We've usually been buying bread at a bakery outlet- about 3 for $1 or 3
for $2... I am sure you'll tell me that bread machine bread is
ultimately cheaper.

As for sandwich stuffs, I agree with Anne-- it is tough getting a lot of
veggies and the like to keep.  Right now, we've had good success with
tuna sandwiches-- we use a recipe that uses onions, pickles, and
dillweed.  I could add romaine quite easily.

On the subject of used items-- those are much harder to come by here,
even harder to find places to fix cheaply-- I would love to have someone
like you guys to fix our poor little vacuum cleaner that just dies
everytime I turn it on and run it through 2-3 rooms.
jadecat
response 61 of 68: Mark Unseen   Aug 2 12:50 UTC 2005

Re: #60- is the vacuum overheating? Mine was doing that. The Beau
figured out a way to open it up and clean the filter (it's still not
that great of a vacuum, but it never really was to begin with. ;) ).

Back to the sandwich thing- not being a vegetarian, getting decent meat
fillings can be annoying. Gotta be careful it's not overly processed, etc.,
keesan
response 62 of 68: Mark Unseen   Aug 2 14:08 UTC 2005

Bread machine bread consists of whatever you choose to make it from.  3 for
$1 bread is probably the white puffy stuff with no taste or texture or fiber.
Check the vacuum cleaner for threads wound around the roller.

Why take sandwiches at all?  You can bring other things in containers and eat
with spoon or fork.  Cook extra the day before.
jadecat
response 63 of 68: Mark Unseen   Aug 2 18:49 UTC 2005

I hate to sound like I'm purposefully trying to be difficult however...

Keeping items fresh during the day while in their containers can also be
an issue. Keeping items cold or warming them up so that they don't go
bad. Which, come to think of it, is also a reason taking sandwichs can
be difficult.

It can be very difficult when you don't have a schedule that's totally
of your choosing.
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