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25 new of 870 responses total.
glenda
response 39 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 21:56 UTC 2004

When I log in I get a message that I have mail, when I go into elm it says
I have 0 messages.
glenda
response 40 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 22:03 UTC 2004

Pine tells me that /var/spool/g/l/glenda doesn't exist.  I prefer elm but
tried pine see if it could find this elusive new mail.
glenda
response 41 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 22:05 UTC 2004

Oops, make that /var/spool/mail/g/l/glenda
blaise
response 42 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 22:14 UTC 2004

In your .login file, remove the line that starts "setenv MAIL".  That
should fix the problem; if not, replace it with "setenv MAIL
/var/spool/mail/glenda".
cross
response 43 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 22:44 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

gelinas
response 44 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 00:39 UTC 2004

Re the final paragraph of 18: that is what I expected to hear.  /usr/bin/ssh
is the ssh executable; /usr/local/bin/ssh is a wrapper to get through the
kernel blocks.  The OpenBSD pf filters work well, but they are different from
our home-grown ones.

A general note on the pf filters:  Every program that provides outbound
access to members will have to be linked to the wrapper program.  The
wrapper _may_ have to be modified as well.  So if you find something that
worked on the old machine but doesn't work here, please either mention
it here or send a message to staff.
drew
response 45 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 00:53 UTC 2004

sz (zmodem send) either is not present, is named differently, or is not in
the default $PATH.

kermit send pretends to work, but doesn't actually send anything.

At least sftp works, finally! Though I need to find a Windoze client that has
download progress reporting. (The version that came with Putty does not.)
gelinas
response 46 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 01:23 UTC 2004

/usr/local/bin/sz is linked to /usr/local/grex-scripts/xmodem_wrapper which
doesn't exist.
cross
response 47 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 02:17 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

keesan
response 48 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 02:42 UTC 2004

I just confirmed the kermit send problem - I got the little bar showing that
it reached 100% and then looked and what I sent was not where I sent it.
While telnetted here.
keesan
response 49 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 03:08 UTC 2004

Ftp worked perfectly in both directions (put and get) just now.  I will be
happy to test any fixes to kermit so that non-members can also transfer files.
gelinas
response 50 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 03:18 UTC 2004

Non-members can ftp in, they just can't ftp out.
albaugh
response 51 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 04:22 UTC 2004

OK, something that either I had set or grex had set was not maintained during
the nextgrex migration:  I have always been able to count on a new login
prompt being issued when I did exit from sh.  Now my connection is dropped.
What setting do I need under nextgrex to maintain the old behavior?
tsty
response 52 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 05:14 UTC 2004

this b0xen is snappy!! kewlness!
keesan
response 53 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 05:39 UTC 2004

Regarding kermit, I can send and receive files when dialed into grex using
kermit to dial.  I was going to try telnetting from grex to sdf using kermit
telnet but sdf is not answering.  When I got the phenomenon of kermit
appearing to send but nothing arriving (sending from grex to sdf account) was
when I telnetted using the non-kermit telnet program, which even on old grex
did not allow me to send files via kermit but on the old grex did not appear
to be sending, just timed out.  Is this a newer version of kermit?  If so I
might want to report this as a bug to the kermit people.  How do I determine
the version?  
I think I tested kermit send/receive on NextGrex earlier, having telnetted
to NextGrex from OldGrex using kermit telnet, and it worked.  
keesan
response 54 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 05:45 UTC 2004

I am seeing an awful lot of items in conferences other than agora as new. 
The first few I looked at seemed to contain responses from me.  Is there some
general fix for this problem?  I have been doing fixseen at each conference
(it is nearly instant on this new grex).
keesan
response 55 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 05:46 UTC 2004

The items show up as 'brand new items'.
keesan
response 56 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 06:08 UTC 2004

I can telnet to sdf.lonestar.org or m-net.arbornet.org using the plain telnet
program but I CANNOT telnet with kermit - No route to host, every time.  I
was using kermit telnet on the old grex.  So this is two things odd about the
new kermit - is it one that was precompiled for OpenBSD?  If so I will report
it to the kermit support group.
cross
response 57 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 06:20 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

mcnally
response 58 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 06:40 UTC 2004

 Once most of the major transition issues are straightened out, can
 spamassassin (or a similar tool) be made available to users who wish
 to invoke it via procmail?
charcat
response 59 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 09:27 UTC 2004

my grex mail dosn't seem to be working properly, I can send mail out but
when I e-mail myself from my other address, nothing shows up.
dpc
response 60 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 15:55 UTC 2004

hThe shell problem I reported is fixed.  Thanks!  However, backspaces
still show up as ^H.  Plus, the "byte abcd" problem with the pager
is still there.  I think thes e two problems need global fixes.

Looks like good progress so far on this big transition, though!  8-)
gull
response 61 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:11 UTC 2004

Re resp:45: Try WinSCP3.  I like it a lot.


Re resp:51: It was just explained a few responses up that that was an
unusual behavior of old Grex that confused a lot of people.  It's
unlikely to be duplicated on new Grex.

If you explain why you want to log out and then immediately log in
again, maybe we can suggest an alternative way to accomplish the same thing.
keesan
response 62 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:23 UTC 2004

Why I want to logout and login:  to check Jim's mail without a second phone
call.  Jim also helps out a few people with using grex and sometimes has to
go into their accounts to fix things.  If I make a change to .cshrc or .login
and I cannot remember how to get this change to take effect without logging
out and in again (such as experimenting with ^H and backspace to try to help
someone else with that problem).  

Charcat, can you mail yourself from within grex?  Do you want me to try
mailing you?  Do you want to try mailing me from your other address?  

Why I use Kermit to telnet:  I have an account at sdf.lonestar.org (which used
to be a lot faster than grex and it has links2 and grex did not, and it has
the latest lynx 2.8.5, and I have 100MB storage space and a website with
photos) and I can use kermit to telnet there and do file transfers over the
same connection, rather than having to exit kermit to do ftp, also one level
of membership there allows kermit file transfer but not ftp (the $1
membership).   Could the same group with outbound ftp have outbound kermit
please?  Also I can print my mail on  my printer if I am dialed into grex with
kermit (or telnetted with kermit to grex) and then telnetted from grex to sdf
with kermit, but not with regular telnet.  

But I think charcat's mail problem should be fixed first, and the ^H
backspace.
blaise
response 63 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:29 UTC 2004

Offhand, a good way to get the old behavior would be to use "exec login"
in place of "logout".
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