response 42 of 299:

Aug 26 18:11 UTC 2002

"Grex did start with just Ann Arbor members, and expansion should be 
made to accommodate a growing membership outside of grex.  "

I meant to say "Ann Arbor."  Sorry about that!

resp:41 - Who taught you reading comprehension?

resp:40 - Are we going to constantly do nothing about argue 
leaglities?  If your reason for wanting this is strickly due to the 
law, I respect that.  I do not think that anyone want to purposfully 
disobey the law, once the interpretation in agreed upon.  However, 
remember what I said about Grex's origins?  If you can't have any 
respect for that and approach it in a manner that is more cooperative, 
there's nothing really left to discuss, because all you're saying 
it "you're wrong, fix it" as opposed to discussing how it should be 
fixed beyond the legal aspect.  How much do you care about the 
organization versus being right?

resp:39  - Whether or not you did not originally bitch about this in 
your post does not make my argument any less valid, for several 
reasons.  At one level, it is about what you choose to do with your 
time, and on another, it is about what is reasonable.  However, if 
you're going to make the argument about the weekend, what are saying?  
That if it was more friendly to *your* schedule that you would have no 
problems making the trip and you would have a problem with the way it 
stands?  If that's the case then how would your argument benefit any 
other person who live remotely but cannot make the trip?  As for 
bitching about the trip, you just did. My point has beeen made.

response 46 of 299:

Aug 26 18:27 UTC 2002

I was not off on a tangent. Did you bother to read the rest of my post?

resp:43 - I didn't dispute that.  My question is regarding your 
attitude regarding the legal aspect.  Clearly something needs to be 
fixed, whether the bylaws are included in that overhaul or not.  Next?

response 56 of 299:

Aug 26 20:05 UTC 2002

resp:48 - I don't spend a whole lot of mental energy on insults for 
people who don't deserve the attention, so I'm going to to speak solely 
on the topic you had the lack of class to perpetuate.  Since you've 
never given anything remotely resembling a coherent argument to link my 
post to a xenophobic mindset, your opinion has little substance.   Once 
more for the record, are you or or are you not posting such an 
accusation?
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Sapna, WCC is Washtenaw Community College. Other answered the other 
question.

response 58 of 299:

Aug 26 20:19 UTC 2002

I *do* agree that something should be in place before this happens, 
instead of crossing bridge when the BOD comes to it, as there are 
several issues that, ideally, should be addresse.  This would likely 
cause serious churn if the issue isn't resolved until an "out-of-
towner" gets elected.  Look how long it takes to get quarum every month.

response 60 of 299:

Aug 26 20:36 UTC 2002

The factors which weigh on the decision are primarily the current state 
of technology which would allow a nonlocal board member to have a 
functional presence at a meeting, and the cost of implementation.  Since 
these factors are impossible to determine in advance, any effort to 
decide a course of implementation in advance is a waste of time, in my 
considered opinion.

I do not believe there is significant opposition, in principle, to the 
election of nonlocal board members, all other things being equal.  So, 
the process of dealing with such a situation would not be ideological, 
but practical.  Which technology to employ, and how to handle the cost, 
not whether to do something.  I do not believe there is any reasonable 
basis for fears that an elected board member would be left out in the 
cold because of either action or inaction on the part of either the rest 
of the board or of the membership.

response 62 of 299:

Aug 26 21:28 UTC 2002

Speaker phones and phone calls are cheap.  I don't think cost is an issue.

I used to be a member of the Arbornet (M-Net) board.  One of the things we
noticed was that online interaction among the board members had all the
pitfalls of, well, online interaction.  Face-to-face meetings brought out
the best in people, and disputes which seemed intractable online were
worked out easily in person.  Thus, I would be opposed to using "party" or
similar text mode for board meetings.  I suppose that voice conferencing
is better, even if not quite as good as face-to-face. 

Grex's community is far more geographically dispersed than ever before,
and it makes sense that its leadership (at least the board) reflect that.