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twenex
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response 39 of 74:
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Nov 17 15:37 UTC 2003 |
What about easter?
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gull
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response 40 of 74:
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Nov 17 16:11 UTC 2003 |
And Good Friday...
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bru
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response 41 of 74:
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Nov 17 16:42 UTC 2003 |
Because christianity is still the majority religion in this country, adn it
is hard to do business with 60% of the work force taking the day off.
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micklpkl
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response 42 of 74:
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Nov 17 16:45 UTC 2003 |
Last I noticed, Good Friday isn't a Federal holiday, nor is Easter (of course,
that one is always on Sunday, when banks and most Federal buildings are closed
anyway.). I'm a little confused by what mynxcat is wondering in resp:38
though.
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twenex
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response 43 of 74:
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Nov 17 18:03 UTC 2003 |
I was thinking of "the Easter season". Good Friday, Easter Sunday, Easter
Monday, and however many days kids get off school over there for Easter.
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rcurl
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response 44 of 74:
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Nov 17 18:37 UTC 2003 |
They do? I don't recall that happening when our daughter was in public
school.
To add to #41 - 60% of politicians too. They mandated the Christmas
holiday so they could do their traditional things on a majority religious
event. It is really unconstitutional, of course, but so are "in God we
trust" and "under God". However it goes beyond religion. New Year's Day,
for example, to recover from a hangover, or Labor Day, because of the
electoral power of labor.
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twenex
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response 45 of 74:
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Nov 17 18:53 UTC 2003 |
Re: #44 Para 1: M<aybe they don't. Over here they do.
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anderyn
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response 46 of 74:
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Nov 17 19:09 UTC 2003 |
AFAIK no public school in the two states I've lived in (Ohio and Michigan)
give children specifically Easter holidays. There is a spring break, but it
does not always coincide with Easter. And no business I've ever worked at has
had Good Friday or Easter Monday off.
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rcurl
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response 47 of 74:
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Nov 17 19:15 UTC 2003 |
I recall schools and businesses being lenient with students or employees
asking to leave early for religious ceremonies.
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gelinas
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response 48 of 74:
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Nov 17 19:17 UTC 2003 |
(Ann Arbor's spring break coincides with Easter. School lets out at the
end of the day on Maundy Thursday and resumes on Monday a week later.)
Last I heard, the Federal holidays were
New Year's Day Martin Luther King Day
Presidents Day Memorial Day
Independence Day Labor Day
Columbus Day Veterans' Day
Thanksgiving Day Christmas Day
I thought there eleven, so I seem to be missing one.
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mynxcat
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response 49 of 74:
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Nov 17 19:28 UTC 2003 |
I have a list of the bank holidays in front of me. There are 10. You
have listed them all.
I know there aren't holidays for Easter, but after all the hoo-haa
about removing religious symbols from the work place, and not allowing
christmas trees in schools, why does the government even sanction
Christmas as a federal holiday.
bru says it would be hard to do business with 60% of the work-force
taking the day off. But why should they take the day off. I haven't
seen the Muslims take Eid off, the Hindus take Diwali off. I'm not
aware of Jewish people taking Hanukkah off, but it's sufficiently
close to Christmas to be bundled with all the personal time people
take around the end of year.
I'm not fully aware of the constitution in this country, but isn't the
government supposed to be secular? Or am I just being presumptious
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gull
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response 50 of 74:
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Nov 17 19:32 UTC 2003 |
Re #41: That's pretty much the argument one school district is using for
giving kids Eid (a Muslim holiday) off. So much of their student body is
Muslim that they wouldn't meet attendance requirements for calling it an
"official" school day.
My schools always had Good Friday off, though they were careful not to
*call* it that...of course, we got the first day of rifle season off, too.
I guess some people would consider that a religious holiday as well. ;>
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twenex
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response 51 of 74:
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Nov 17 19:40 UTC 2003 |
President's Day? If that coincides with a holiday in the
uk, remind me to find a job where i'll have to be at work
that day until such time as the democrats win the
presidential.
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mynxcat
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response 52 of 74:
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Nov 17 20:18 UTC 2003 |
I think President's day was for the birth anniversary of two
presidents, Lincoln and Washington, and they picked a day between the
two brith anniversaries? Or have I been misinformed?
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glenda
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response 53 of 74:
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Nov 17 21:06 UTC 2003 |
You got it. Lincoln's birthday is Feb. 12, Washington's is Feb 22. We used
to get both off (I worked for the City of Westland), then it was changed to
the Monday between them and I lost a holiday, regained when when Martin Luther
King day came into being.
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twenex
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response 54 of 74:
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Nov 17 21:41 UTC 2003 |
Maybe it's not more important to commemmorate than to
"doiscommemmorate" then.
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tod
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response 55 of 74:
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Nov 17 23:03 UTC 2003 |
This response has been erased.
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tpryan
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response 56 of 74:
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Nov 17 23:20 UTC 2003 |
Was Washington's birthday Feb 22nd new calendar or old calendar
(jump in days in his lifetime)?
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twenex
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response 57 of 74:
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Nov 17 23:36 UTC 2003 |
#54 shouldn't have a "not" in it.
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klg
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response 58 of 74:
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Nov 18 03:00 UTC 2003 |
2003:
Federal law (5 U.S.C. 6103) establishes the following public holidays
for Federal employees. Please note that most Federal employees work on
a Monday through Friday schedule. For these employees, when a holiday
falls on a nonworkday -- Saturday or Sunday -- the holiday usually is
observed on Monday (if the holiday falls on Sunday) or Friday (if the
holiday falls on Saturday).
Wednesday, January 1 New Year's Day
Monday, January 20 Birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr.
Monday, February 17 Washington's Birthday
Monday, May 26 Memorial Day
Friday, July 4 Independence Day
Monday, September 1 Labor Day
Monday, October 13 Columbus Day
Tuesday, November 11 Veterans Day
Thursday, November 27 Thanksgiving Day
Thursday, December 25 Christmas Day
re 52: We did not know that Presidents Washington & Lincoln were
Jewish.
re 49: No Jew would take Hanukah off for religious reasons.
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bru
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response 59 of 74:
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Nov 18 04:10 UTC 2003 |
Not important what people in other countries or who follow different religions
do. The fact is that many people would take Christmas off, and in so doing,
would make any attempt to maintain a regular business climate impossible.
Now, there are places that do stay open on Christmas, but that is up to them.
no one forces anyone to close on any holiday. Most businesses know how not
to thri their money w\away.Good Friday, Most places I have worked offer the
employees two hours off without pay on Good Friday to go to church..
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mynxcat
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response 60 of 74:
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Nov 18 04:54 UTC 2003 |
Re 58> Who said anything about Lincoln or Washington being Jewish? Where the
hell did that question come from?
And I'm not very aware of the Jewish faith. I may be wrong in thinking they'd
want to take hanukkah off.
Also, what is the pont of your post? It reiterated what gelinas said, and
brought up a point that was never debated? Did you even read what people had
to say?
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tsty
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response 61 of 74:
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Nov 18 05:58 UTC 2003 |
for a while .. there was a publicized trade between christians and jews so
that each would work the others' holidays ...
howeer taht was in the 60s when peace love and understanding prospered
beside protest ...
media these dyas wouldn't *dare* announce such cooperation.
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gelinas
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response 62 of 74:
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Nov 18 06:13 UTC 2003 |
mynxcat, the penultimate sentence of #58 was a pun, based upon the
misspelling of the second occurrence of "birth", as "brith", in your
response. In Hebrew, "brith" means 'cutting' and is a reference to
circumcision.
I'd thought Presidents Day was established at the same time as Martin
Luther King Day, to keep the total number of holidays the same.
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tpryan
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response 63 of 74:
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Nov 18 14:03 UTC 2003 |
Some New England states also have a day-off holiday
for Patirot's day. April 19th or the Monday before it. ?
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