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glenda
response 381 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 07:36 UTC 2005

Re #354:  Because Glenda is burned out from almost 6 years of intensive
computer classes and needs a break, that is one of the reasons she is not
working regular classes, just the 4 one week long special sessions this
summer.  She is going to spend most of her time working on the organizing the
house, get her spinning wheels and looms up and working, stitching, beading,
and other general crafting, and reading fiction and crafting books.  The most
technical reading will be SciFi (my favorite genre).  The only real computer
work I am planning on doing is building the computer that I have had
components for since just before the emergency surgery in December 2004.  It
is a 64 bit processor machine with a minimum of 250G hard drive (maybe more),
a gig of memory and will run OpenBsd as main OS, Net and Free BSDs and SuSe
to play with, haven't decided whether it will have a small windows area or
not.  Some of my needlework, weaving, and beading software only runs on
windows since most of the people using it aren't really computer literate and
only use windows.
scholar
response 382 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 08:33 UTC 2005

Right, because computer literacy is defined by Unix.
jadecat
response 383 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 12:44 UTC 2005

In regards Cross's comment in #377- it does seem that more information 
needs to be shared between current staff members.

It's hard for other staffers to help when the only one that knows isn't 
sharing info. I've seen Cross ask several times, in this item, for more 
information on what's wrong so he (or someone else can help) but 
haven't seen ANY indication that STeve (or glenda) is sharing any of 
that. Maybe this is happening in staff e-mail, but I would think that 
if it was Cross wouldn't be here repeatedly asking for more info.

Right now I'm one of those people that can telnet in to my account but 
can't access the mooncat account via Backtalk (which makes me glad I 
created this account on a whim a few months ago).
jep
response 384 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 13:42 UTC 2005

It was a lot easier for me to write my perspective about how Grex is 
limited by lack of trust than it is to overcome that limitation.

I think resp:379 is part of the right approach for bringing in 
additional volunteers to the staff.  There's also a need for some sort 
of training procedure to bring new staffers up to speed with the 
philosophy and practices of the staff.  That will require time and 
effort from someone on the staff.

It's also going to require patience and flexibility from the staff and 
all of Grex, because new people coming in are going to have their own 
ways of doing things.  It's not fair to expect them to suppress their 
personalities and the techniques they have used in the past in other 
contexts to volunteer for the staff of Grex.  They do have to fit into 
the team which exists, but the team has to adjust, too.

In the short term, it's easier for the existing staff to just do things 
themselves to get by, but right now it seems apparent the short term 
doesn't last forever.
twenex
response 385 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 14:55 UTC 2005

Hear, hear.
naftee
response 386 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 15:36 UTC 2005

has steVE still not told cross what is wrong ?! i believe cross is available
to fix.
tod
response 387 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 16:02 UTC 2005

Cross is not in the Burns Family "circle of trust"
I've got my EYES on you, Focker.  ;)
naftee
response 388 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 16:59 UTC 2005

that movie was OK, but got kind of tiresome, i think
mary
response 389 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 19:15 UTC 2005

Sorry I missed you on staff, Glenda, and thanks for the correction.  Did I 
miss anyone else?

And a huge thanks to STeve for looking at the newuser problem last night.  
Is there an update?  Is newuser back on?
naftee
response 390 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 19:49 UTC 2005

thanks, huge mary !
tod
response 391 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 19:49 UTC 2005

Don't call her huge, looni Jim
naftee
response 392 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 19:52 UTC 2005

whoops,  big slip :(   

sorry, mary !
glenda
response 393 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 19:57 UTC 2005

Re 389:  Not yet, still working on it.  

Putting an item in Agora asking STeve for information doesn't work.  He hasn't
read Agora in years unless I tell him of an item he should look at.  I forget
more items in Agora than I read, so I don't always see them either.  I also
heavily filter what/who I read just so that I can keep up.  About the only
CF that STeve reads is staff, and I am not sure how often he gets there.
tod
response 394 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 20:52 UTC 2005

That's good to hear! Right, Mary?
naftee
response 395 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 01:23 UTC 2005

I sure hope steVE reads the system problems' item.

oh wait; that's THIS item.
tsty
response 396 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 02:21 UTC 2005

... ???? mdw is gone?   huh?!
jor
response 397 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 16:24 UTC 2005

        May I have permission to just *look*
        at the source code for newuser?
        I can take "no" for an answer.

        Where is it?


naftee
response 398 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 17:14 UTC 2005

/grex/grexdoc/newuser
drew
response 399 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 4 20:02 UTC 2005

Newuser was working just before the disk went bad, was it not? My guess is
that it isn't the code itself that's broken, but one or more data files that
newuser depends on.

What exactly happens if you put newuser online and have someone run it?
gelinas
response 400 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 04:39 UTC 2005

I've updated the staff list at http://www.grex.org/staffnote/
scholar
response 401 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 20:33 UTC 2005

thanks, joe!
naftee
response 402 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 21:19 UTC 2005

thanks, scholar !
tsty
response 403 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 16:26 UTC 2005

  
  
grex% ls -las /grex/grexdoc/newuser
total 36
2 drwxrwxr-x   7 root  staff  1024 Jan 18  2004 .
2 drwxr-xr-x  31 root  staff  1024 Jan  3 13:13 ..
4 -rw-r--r--   1 root  staff  1396 Jan 18  2004 00-account
2 -rw-rw-r--   1 root  staff   164 Dec 27  2003 01-newuser
2 -rw-rw-r--   1 root  staff   160 Dec 30  2003 02-wnu
2 drwxrwxr-x   2 root  staff   512 Oct 14  2004 CVS
2 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root  staff    45 Dec 28  2003 build_newuser
2 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root  staff    65 Dec 29  2003 build_wnu
2 drwxr-xr-x   3 root  staff   512 Jan  3 17:29 datafiles
2 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root  staff   684 Oct 14  2004 install_newuser
2 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root  staff   367 Dec 30  2003 install_wnu
4 drwxr-xr-x   3 root  staff  1536 Oct 16  2004 nu
4 drwxr-xr-x   3 root  staff  1536 Dec 28  2003 src
4 drwxr-xr-x   3 root  staff  1536 Oct 17  2004 wnu
  
albaugh
response 404 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 22:00 UTC 2005

BTW, if newuser doesn't run properly due to munged data, then it is deficient.
(yes, yes, there are limits on what one can expect any program to do when it
is asked to work with bad data)
jor
response 405 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 7 17:29 UTC 2005


/a: write failed, file system is full
Got error 28 (No space left on device) in buffer write


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