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jadecat
response 38 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 14:30 UTC 2006

The big shot lawyer (had to repeat it, couldn't resist) may end up
recovering- but he will, apparently, have some of the pellets in him for
the rest of his life.
janc
response 39 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 15:31 UTC 2006

What I take away from all this is that:

  (1)  Cheney is a man eager to take up arms and start shooting,
  (2)  He tends to handle arms somewhat carelessly, without a lot
       of thought toward safety precautions,
  (3)  He's likely to end up damaging people other than the
       theoretical target, and
  (4)  The white house will go into denial mode when it happens.

But, hey, we already learned all that about him in Iraq, didn't we?
jep
response 40 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 15:55 UTC 2006

re resp:36: Cars should be treated just as carefully.  We wink off car 
accidents, but they are usually caused by carelessness.

I am not making excuses for the vice president.  He made a stupid 
mistake, in my opinion according to what I have seen about the 
incident.  It does not make him an evil person or entitle anyone to 
single him out for exceptionally harsh treatment.  It does not speak 
particularly well of him.  It could have cost someone their life and 
that itself makes it a pretty serious matter (equal in that way to any 
car accident).  He certainly should have known better.

re resp:37: I saw speculation here -- but nowhere else, not even 
speculation -- that Cheney might have been drinking and that could have 
contributed to the accident.  It was completely invented here.  It sure 
would be damning if it were true, but there is no reason at all to 
beleive that it is.
tod
response 41 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 17:06 UTC 2006

I applaud the VP's attempts and only wish he'd invited more friends on the
hunt.
marcvh
response 42 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 17:11 UTC 2006

Maybe Cheney was telling the joke about "you shoot the lawyer twice"
and he got carried away with his visual aid.
tod
response 43 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 17:13 UTC 2006

<out the side of his mouth> "Stick a Q'ran in his pocket for me.."
rcurl
response 44 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 17:56 UTC 2006

"I thought this was pretty typical of Cheney - starting shooting before
thinking or looking."
johnnie
response 45 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 19:14 UTC 2006

Now this:  

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas (CNN) -- The fellow hunter who was shot and
wounded by Vice President Dick Cheney has suffered a "minor heart
attack" after a piece of birdshot migrated to his heart, a hospital
spokesman said Tuesday.

Harry Whittington, 78, is in stable condition in intensive care and will
remain hospitalized for up to seven days, hospital officials said.

"Some of the bird shot appears to have moved and lodged into part of his
heart ... in what we would say is a minor heart attack," said Peter
Banko, administrator at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial. 
---------
Sounds like the shooting was more serious than the White House has been
letting on.
happyboy
response 46 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 19:17 UTC 2006

he musta looked alot like a bird thru cheney's scotch-goggles.
tod
response 47 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 19:25 UTC 2006

Harry got peppered perdy good!
happyboy
response 48 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 19:37 UTC 2006

like a denny's tuna sammich!
gull
response 49 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 23:25 UTC 2006

Re resp:45: I never expected an incident involving Dick Cheney to 
result in someone *else* having a heart attack. 
 
 
Re resp:40: I guess my question is, if this had been a traffic 
accident, would Cheney have been charged with involuntary manslaughter?  
If so, how is it different just because he used a gun instead of a car? 
 
bru
response 50 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 01:09 UTC 2006

no one has died, no manslaughter.
other
response 51 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 03:57 UTC 2006

Yet.
nharmon
response 52 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 04:09 UTC 2006

Yet. If this guy dies of his wounds, or otherwise as a result of the
gunshot wound, Cheney is on the hook. Or, so he should be.
naftee
response 53 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 04:30 UTC 2006

I've been hit by a pickup truck before.

Was it my fault for not reacting fast enough, or his fault for deciding to
risk a turn and drive into me ?
richard
response 54 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 16:56 UTC 2006

cheney did not have a license to hunt quail.

some example he is setting.  
nharmon
response 55 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 16:59 UTC 2006

Yeah, maybe professional athletes weren't such bad role models after
all, huh? :)
tod
response 56 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 17:37 UTC 2006

I think we can all move beyond this simply by mandating that anything Cheney
kills has to be eaten by him.  If he can't finish what's on his plate then
he can share it buffet style with the Administration.  Setup some big BBQ pits
right there on the White House lawn and get a convoy from Walter-Reed's morgue
going. Snap to it.
nharmon
response 57 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 17:42 UTC 2006

Gross.
tod
response 58 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 17:56 UTC 2006

Yea, disgusting...isn't IT.
johnnie
response 59 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 17:58 UTC 2006

And this:  Apparently, the owner of the ranch where Cheney went on his
rampage hinted in an interview that the Veep may have had "a beer or
two" prior to the shooting, which may not be such a great thing for a
guy with a couple of drunk driving arrests on his record.  
happyboy
response 60 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 18:00 UTC 2006

but beer is good for lubing up his pacemaker, d00d.
jep
response 61 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 18:11 UTC 2006

re resp:59: "Apparently" someone said Cheney was drinking?  It's not 
apparent to me.  If there's information, cite it right out in the 
open.  I'm not going to assume there's anything to a story you cite 
like that.

I assume that is all a rumor which was started right here in this item 
as idle speculation because it would be so titillating if there was 
anything to it.  It is nothing short of contemptible to be spreading 
that kind of garbage.  How much lower can you possibly go for a 
standard of reporting and judgement, than to make up a rumor yourself 
out of nothing at all, and then repeatedly cite it as a fact?

I'm not a fan of the vice president or the Administration, but I have 
nothing but disdain and despite for the "drunk hunting" innuendos which 
were started in this item.  No one with the slightest self-respect 
would act in that manner.
tod
response 62 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 18:24 UTC 2006

re #61
 If there's information, cite it right out in the
 open.
They were wearing orange hunting jackets.  BRIGHT ORANGE jackets.
That's a fact.
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