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klg
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response 38 of 74:
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Jan 19 17:21 UTC 2006 |
Wasn't that the condition under which he was out of jail previously? -
i.e., he cannot be trusted.
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jep
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response 39 of 74:
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Jan 19 17:39 UTC 2006 |
re resp:37: Yes, Todd, I do know what he is in jail for doing.
Assisting in a suicide is against the law in Michigan. If Jack
Kevorkian is released from jail, it should be with the clear
understanding that, if he assists in another suicide, he will go back
to jail.
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nharmon
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response 40 of 74:
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Jan 19 17:47 UTC 2006 |
According to Wikipedia: "On March 26, 1999, Kevorkian was charged with
second-degree murder for the delivery of a controlled substance
(administering a lethal injection to Thomas Youk). A Michigan jury
subsequently found Kevorkian guilty."
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rcurl
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response 41 of 74:
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Jan 19 18:20 UTC 2006 |
I agree with what jep says in #32.
If Kevokian's clients were fully in charge of their senses and willingly
sought his assistance in ending their pain, then the only problems are the
laws that do not permit this under sensible controls. The bizarre nature
of Kervokian's methods aggravated the circumstances, but if Michigan had
Oregon's law, Kevorkian would have been able to assist people within that
law with noone being able to raise objections.
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tod
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response 42 of 74:
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Jan 19 18:34 UTC 2006 |
re #40
Exactly. It was about distributing a lethal prescription to assist a suicide.
It had nothing to do with his personality or the "machine" people are
referring to. This whole discussion is really an extension of how our
government and corporations control prescription drugs and how the media plays
into it by portraying people like Kevorkian as monsters for making such things
available to those in need. Fascism at its finest.
Why is it that only a few years ago, everyone was happy to see lawyers and
states going after Microsoft for controlling our lives but nobody wants to
step up to the plate when it comes to Big Brother controlling our medicine?
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nharmon
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response 43 of 74:
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Jan 19 18:49 UTC 2006 |
Because tod, we're too busy putting freedom on a force-march.
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tod
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response 44 of 74:
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Jan 19 19:06 UTC 2006 |
Killing our youth over a purple finger, yep.
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jep
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response 45 of 74:
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Jan 19 19:50 UTC 2006 |
re resp:41: Geez, Rane, can you please give me some warning before
dropping zingers like that? I almost swallowed my telephone headset.
I would not have thought your keyboard was capable of the string, "I
agree with what jep says".
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twenex
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response 46 of 74:
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Jan 19 20:08 UTC 2006 |
Oh dear. More humour. You tiresome individual. :-(
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tod
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response 47 of 74:
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Jan 19 20:11 UTC 2006 |
I agree with #41
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cross
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response 48 of 74:
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Jan 19 21:45 UTC 2006 |
This response has been erased.
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tod
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response 49 of 74:
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Jan 19 21:53 UTC 2006 |
I prefer the Liotta Tofu Stir Fry in Hannibal
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richard
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response 50 of 74:
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Jan 19 22:56 UTC 2006 |
Kevorkian has already said that if released he will never do an "assisted
suicide" again. The reason is that the state of Michigan revoked his
physician's license. He is an ethical man and believes that ONLY licensed
doctors should be allowed to treat patients. He will not act as a doctor
since he will never again be licensed to do so.
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happyboy
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response 51 of 74:
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Jan 19 23:07 UTC 2006 |
re49:"What is that? It smells delicious! *mummble*"
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tod
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response 52 of 74:
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Jan 19 23:09 UTC 2006 |
re #50
Never Say Never
*twangs 007 music on electric mandolin*
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nharmon
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response 53 of 74:
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Jan 20 00:40 UTC 2006 |
According to Wikipedia, Kevorkian lost his license after the second of
over one hundred assisted suicides. The lack of a physician's license
did not stop him before. Why would it stop him now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevorkian
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tod
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response 54 of 74:
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Jan 20 01:53 UTC 2006 |
The terrorists are WINNING
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klg
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response 55 of 74:
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Jan 20 04:08 UTC 2006 |
That was my recollection, NH. Richard don't know squat.
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richard
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response 56 of 74:
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Jan 20 15:39 UTC 2006 |
re #53 wikipedia might be wrong, don't assume everyting you read on wikipedia
is fact. Kevorkian was also licensed in more than one state. He has in fact
stated in writing that he will no longer treat patients if he is released.
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nharmon
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response 57 of 74:
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Jan 20 16:27 UTC 2006 |
I usually give Wikipedia the benefit of the doubt. Unless you have
something that contradicts it?
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klg
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response 58 of 74:
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Jan 20 17:06 UTC 2006 |
I wonder which definition of "treat" Dr Death has in mind.
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johnnie
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response 59 of 74:
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Jan 20 19:30 UTC 2006 |
Yes--generally speaking, a doctor "treats" patients to make them better,
to keep them alive. Killing a person wouldn't conflict with a promise
not to treat them.
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richard
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response 60 of 74:
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Jan 21 19:21 UTC 2006 |
klg don't call him "dr. death", he has a name. call him "dr.
kevorkian" The man has a family and spent a lot of years helping free
people who were prisoners of their bodies and of chronic pain. I don't
think you can appreciate this issue until or unless you have
experienced that kind of pain and there is nothing you can do about it,
or if someone you loved has experienced that kind of pain.
If a horse or a dog or a cat is in that kind of pain, we put them under
and call it "humane" Yet, because of religious thinking that these
people may not even hold to, they are somehow obliged to stay alive
even when they are screaming in pain day in and day out. Go to a
hospital some time to a Chronic ward klg, listen to the screams. Then
tell me you don't think its humane of one of these people wants a way
to die with dignity, just like dogs and horses get.
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nharmon
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response 61 of 74:
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Jan 21 19:54 UTC 2006 |
Lets not turn this into a another reason to bash religion. Richard,
would you agree that the fact that his actions were good does not
distract from his being a nutjob?
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rcurl
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response 62 of 74:
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Jan 21 20:42 UTC 2006 |
I rather considered him just unconventional.
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