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25 new of 470 responses total.
z0mbie
response 375 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 26 01:33 UTC 1996

What's the other bbs?
brighn
response 376 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 26 05:33 UTC 1996

Monolith BBS (cal022011.student.utwente.nl).  The difference there is that
it's owned by a single person, a student at U-Twente, in Holland, so he makes
all the rules... 
,
tsty
response 377 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 26 07:32 UTC 1996

fascinating .... maybe an item in general would be a neat place to
expand upon monolith. various conferencing systems have such intersting
histories.
ladyevil
response 378 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 02:41 UTC 1996

I would really like to NOT see the damn FairWitnessing Conference!
Anything that has to be said on it can be said in here, so I don;t have to
go through another conference, just to catch up on everything! Damn it all,
doesn't anyone care about keeping things simple anymore??
janc
response 379 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 03:24 UTC 1996

I don't think anyone has required fairwitnesses to join this new conference.
If you'd prefer to ignore it, feel free.  Isn't that simple enough?
rcurl
response 380 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 04:41 UTC 1996

That's a rather patronizing answer. It seems to me that the *intent* of a
fw cf would be to inform and coordinate the activities of fws. However all
ways of doing that should be open for discussion, and a cf might not be
the best way. I don't think it is, either. 

orinoco
response 381 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 14:14 UTC 1996

It does strike me, though, that fw's *should* be at least occasional visitors
to the coop .cf, and that a specific fairwitness conference wouldn't have much
to say that couldn't be said here.
srw
response 382 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 16:13 UTC 1996

In Grex's history, there has never been any requirement that fws should read
or participate in coop, as far as I know.
mta
response 383 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 19:38 UTC 1996

I think a requirement that anyone do anything is a very bad idea.  This is
just a hobby, you know.  Just exactly how do you propose to enforce a
"requirement"?

Silly bears.
davel
response 384 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 00:12 UTC 1996

I'd hate to see us try to set up a requirement, but (if I were eligible at
the time of voting) I'd vote against any board candidate I happened to know
didn't check coop fairly regularly.  The idea that FWs should automatically
*have* to read coop seems pretty bad, though.  The board's supposed to think
about policy; FWs are responsible only for their own conferences.
mta
response 385 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 00:56 UTC 1996

I agree with you, Dave, that anyone running for the board ought to care enough
about GREX to stay up to date in coop ... but I don't like the idea of making
it mandatory ... except perhaps "functionally mandatory"  (ie, the voters
won't vote for you if they haven't seen your opinions here before the
election.)
ladyevil
response 386 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 01:52 UTC 1996

Which is why i dislike the idea of a FW cf.
Suddenly, just as it is expected of board to read here, it will be expected
of me to read there.. and I WANT to keep up in here, too, as wel as my own
cf, and Synth, and a few others, and still occassionally have time to chat
in party or over tel's, so this place is some itty-bitty- bit fun still!
davel
response 387 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 13:21 UTC 1996

I don't see where such an expectation would come from.  *I* see no need
whatsoever for a FW conference, but a few uses to which one could be put ...
but unless one were started officially (say, by board action), well, anyone
can start a conference for any purpose, but no one's expected to read it.
popcorn
response 388 of 470: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 14:19 UTC 1996

Kevin said in e-mail that he's changed his mind about the fw conference.
I think he decided this because I told I think Grex doesn't need a fw
conference but that it's his decision about whether or not to create it.
I'm going to talk to him about it some more to be sure I'm not trompling on
something he really really does think is a good idea.
cybergod
response 389 of 470: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 00:23 UTC 1996

Not to change the subject, but I have another idea for a conference I want
to FW. 

Name: Online Service Basher!
Accsess name: osl, isp, ispbash, onlinebasher, or any other ones you guys can
come up with.
Purpose: Bashing Online services that suk hosewater! Take AOL for example.
Almost everyone on Grex hates AOL. I used to love it, now I don't. I don't
even LIKE it anymore. 
But it won't be for just cutting down AOL. It will be used to share tips or
tricks for some ISPs that suck. Or just chatting about how much you hate a
part of an ISP. I have millions on my mind that I can come up with. Pipeline's
suckey brower that they stick you with in the begining, AOL's pricing, browser
2.5, and a whole lot more!
FairWitnesses: No one other than Adam (cybergod) Jacob. Unless you really
wanna and I concider you my friend! ;)

Thanks a billion! I know on Grex I can be a real annoyance, so in the
conference you will be able to talk about people behind their backs and hope
they don't come and read it. Like j0ker666, a lot of people wanna bash him!

-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: z0mbie's FW conference proposal

I used to think it was a bad idea. Not I'm not sure. The more I think about
it I think that it wouldn't be a bad idea. 
But, theres certainly nothing wrong with placing an *it* in agora or the intro
conference like a few people said..

-=-=-=-=-=-=-

See ya`all later..

rcurl
response 390 of 470: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 07:13 UTC 1996

Bashing things doesn't take much thought. It would be more interesting to
have an item in agora for comparing OSP - good and bad - and maybe link it
to internet. 

robh
response 391 of 470: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 12:16 UTC 1996

Yah, I'd rather see that as an item first, and if there's enough
demand, maybe a conference later.
popcorn
response 392 of 470: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 17:39 UTC 1996

Re 389: Actually, there already is a fair witnessing item in the Info
conference.  It's item 26.  It isn't very active.

Also re 389: I agree -- maybe start with an ISP bashing item in Agora, and
see if it seems to have enough momentum to need a whole conference.
cybergod
response 393 of 470: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 19:35 UTC 1996

Okay. I'll start to make the item in Agora right after I enter this.

And if it does have enough responces, who should I mail? cfadm?

Also, I thought about it, and I would think that it would be good not just
for a bashing conference, but a place where people can talk GOOD and BAD about
ISPs or OSPs just like a few of you said..
 
Thanks!
scott
response 394 of 470: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 23:15 UTC 1996

Hey, there *is* the Internet conference...
tsty
response 395 of 470: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 08:26 UTC 1996

hmmmmmmmmmm, the internet conference and perhaps info.cf might make
for a good opening of backtalk?
void
response 396 of 470: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 09:39 UTC 1996

   i'd like to propose a recovery conference. i've been in recovery from
drug/alcohol addiction for over seven years, and i proposed and have fw'd the
recovery conference on m-net.

   the conference would be for discussion of recovery issues...recovery from
anything, not just substance abuse. pseudonymous posters would be welcome.
i know that there are already support groups for this kind of thing, but i
also know that there are people who can't always get out of the house to go
to real-life meetings.

   i'd also like to fw this conference. a co-fw or two would be welcome, if
anyone's interested.
remmers
response 397 of 470: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 16:21 UTC 1996

Re #393, 394: Hm, that's right. The internet conference already
exists and would be a natural place to talk about ISP's. In
fact, I seem to remember that there's already such an item
there.
popcorn
response 398 of 470: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 16:52 UTC 1996

Void -- Last I heard (several years ago), M-Net's recovery conference was a
closed conference.  Grex doesn't have closed conferences other than the staff
conference.  Are you okay with this conference being open to the public?

Speaking as an individual user of Grex, I think this is a great idea for a
conference.  I've sometimes wondered why Grex doesn't have one.

(Two other conferences I've also wondered about & thought would be a good idea
would be a conference for older people and a conference for gay/lesbian/bi
issues.)

Re 393: If you decide you want to go ahead with it, probably the best thing
to do is to enter a response right here in this item.
cybergod
response 399 of 470: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 20:00 UTC 1996

Wow .. my Agora item on ISP and OPS already has 10 respnces on the first day!

The conference about this already exists??? 

Re: Void's Proposal

Although I'm not on drugs or alcahol and recovering, I think a lot of people
are. I think that that would be a good conference that Grex should have.
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