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keesan
response 37 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 16:09 UTC 2006

I think klg is a made-up character.
cross
response 38 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 16:29 UTC 2006

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happyboy
response 39 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 16:41 UTC 2006

IT'S REMMERS!


        /cues 1950s scarymovie music
tod
response 40 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 16:56 UTC 2006

re #37
Me, too!  (Except I'm thinking "made up" as in "over dressed for his day job")
happyboy
response 41 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 16:58 UTC 2006

you mean the one at gm that they're gonna outsource to
canada to save on healthcare costs?  that job?
tod
response 42 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 17:03 UTC 2006

UAW (u aren't worth-it!)
johnnie
response 43 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 17:49 UTC 2006

k's Carter character assassination comes from a book called "The Real
Jimmy Carter", published by Regnery Publishing, the same company that
gave us that other icon of right-wing investigate journamalism, "Unfit
For Command" (the swift boat expose on John Kerry).
klg
response 44 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 18:12 UTC 2006

The source used by the Kludge Report credits the following for the 
information about our illustrious ex-president:

Bourne, Peter G. Jimmy Carter: A Comprehensive Biography from Plains to 
Post-Presidency. (NY: Lisa Drew/Scribner,1997), pp. 192-3.

 Tim Russert Show.  Saturday, November 5, 2005. CNBC. An identical 
account is found in his book, Our Endangered Values, p. 79.

richard
response 45 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 21:20 UTC 2006

klg said:


" Also forgotten was Carter s statement that he was  proud  to have   
egregationist Lester Maddox as his lieutenant governor in 1970, calling      
him the essence of the Democratic Party.   The same Lester Maddox        
who refused to attend the funeral Martin Luther King Jr. in 1968.              
                                                         



klg's sources are showing their usual level of accuracy.  Lester Maddox 
was NOT Carter's Lt. Governor, he was Carter's predecessor as Governor of 
Georgia.  

Also George wallace saw the light after his attempted assasination in 1972 
and won the respect of black voters, in his last election he was elected 
with a majority of the black vote.  

klg's "sources" don't bother to mention that the first thing Carter did 
upon becoming president was to name his friend Andrew Young as the first 
black ambassador to the United Nations.  Nor do klg's sources mention that 
Carter spends much of his time these days in the poorest countries in 
Africa with Habitat for Humanity building houses for the impoverished.


tod
response 46 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 21:51 UTC 2006

What kind of whacko builds houses for impoverished people?!  He must be a
liberal or sumpthin!
cross
response 47 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 00:11 UTC 2006

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tod
response 48 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 00:14 UTC 2006

Enemies of freedom
cross
response 49 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 00:16 UTC 2006

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keesan
response 50 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 02:52 UTC 2006

Is there a shorter way to write multiple ! in linux, .!* or something?
cross
response 51 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 03:02 UTC 2006

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kingjon
response 52 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 03:07 UTC 2006

There's a way to *output* several. The "jot" command (but on Grex you have to
specify /usr/bin/jot because /usr/local/bin/jot is part of the Orville Write
package and comes first in the $PATH). !man jot

cross
response 53 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 03:13 UTC 2006

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rcurl
response 54 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 05:31 UTC 2006

Re #45: don't blame KLG's "sources". Consider the conveyor of those lies as
their originator. 
klg
response 55 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 12:00 UTC 2006

and Curl Exposed - - RW and Curl Exposed - - RW and Curl Exposed - - RW


Who is LYING (again)???  RW and Curl or Infoplease.com??  (I put my 
money on the first two characters.)

"Maddox, Lester G., 1915 , U.S. public official, governor of Georgia 
(1967 71), b. Atlanta.  He achieved national notoriety in 1964 when he 
drove African Americans from his restaurant in defiance of federal 
civil-rights legislation and then closed the establishment rather than 
desegregate it.  Elected (1966) governor as an avowed segregationist 
with the support of the Ku Klux Klan, he was unable to stem the tide of 
integration.  Although prevented by the state constitution from 
succeeding himself as governor, HE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY ELECTED LIEUTENANT 
GOVERNOR (1971 75).  He lost the 1974 primary election for the 
Democratic gubernatorial nomination."

"Carter, Jimmy (James Earl Carter, Jr.), 1924 , 39th President of the 
United States (1977 81), b. Plains, Ga, grad. Annapolis, 1946.  Carter 
served in the navy, where he worked with Admiral Hyman G. Rickover in 
developing the nuclear submarine program.  Resigning his commission 
(1953) after his father's death, he ran his family's peanut farm, which 
he built into a prosperous business.  In 1962 he was elected as a 
Democrat to the first of two terms in the Georgia Senate.  HE RAN 
UNSUCCESSFULLY FOR GOVERNOR IN 1966, THEN SUCCEEDED IN 1970, replacing 
Lester Maddox."

And, the information previously posted shows that Carter, if he was not 
actually a segregationist, was willing to play to those bases 
sentiments in order to be elected.  Is that the sort of person you want 
to be a "leader" of the Democrats?"  (Oops.  Silly question.) 


Curl Exposed - - RW and Curl Exposed - - RW and Curl Exposed - - RW and 
richard
response 56 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 15:45 UTC 2006

klg I lived in georgia at the time, Carter's lt. governor was Zell "give'em
hell" Miller, who by the way Carter now calls a traitor.  Lester Maddox lost
the 1974 gubernatorial primary BECAUSE CARTER ENDORSED HIS OPPONENT, George
Busbee, who subsequently served two terms as governor.
klg
response 57 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 17:12 UTC 2006

Keep shoveling, RW.   I guess the Biographical Directory of the U.S. 
Congress is also lying:

MILLER, Zell Bryan, (1932 - ) 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Senate Years of Service: 2000-2005 
Party: Democrat 
 
MILLER, Zell Bryan, a Senator from Georgia; born in Young Harris, 
Georgia, on February 24, 1932; graduated Young Harris College 1951; 
served in U.S. marine corps 1953-1956; graduated University of Georgia 
1957, Masters  degree 1958; businessman; professor of political science 
and history; mayor of Young Harris 1959-1960; Georgia state senator 
1961-1964; member, state Board of Pardons and Paroles 1973-1975; 
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA 1975-1991; Governor of Georgia 1991-
1999; appointed on July 24, 2000, as a Democrat to the United States 
Senate to fill the vacancy caused by the death of Paul Coverdell; took 
the oath of office on July 27, 2000; elected as a Democrat to the 
United States Senate in a November 2000 special election for the 
remainder of the term ending January 3, 2005; was not a candidate for 
election in 2004; member, American Battle Monuments Commission, 2005-.


Are you absolutely certain that Busbee won because of Carter's 
endorsement, or are you confusing cause and effect with coincidence 
once again???
rcurl
response 58 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 17:54 UTC 2006

My research (in Kestenbaum's "Political Graveyard" shows that KLG is 
correct. Lester Maddox was Lieutenant Governor of Georgia for the same 
period that Jimmy Carter was Governor. In Georgia these are independent 
offices and not elected on a joint ticket. The only duty of the LG of 
Georgia at the time was to preside over the Georgia Senate. Whatever was 
the (uneasy)  relation between Carter and Maddox, Carter nevertheless:

"Four years after his defeat, Carter ran for Governor again and won. As 
Governor of Georgia, Carter worked hard to heal the state's racial 
divisions, announcing in his inaugural address that "the time for racial 
discrimination is over." It was an unprecedented statement for a southern 
governor, but Carter made good on his words. He increased the number of 
African American state employees by 40 percent and hung portraits of 
Martin Luther King Jr. and other notable black Georgians in the state 
capitol. He equalized the funding of schools in rich and poor districts of 
the state, and created new educational facilities for prisoners and the 
developmentally disabled."

(http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/car0bio-1)

So any attempt to associate the segregationist policies of Maddox with 
Carter is an enormous lie.
richard
response 59 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 18:25 UTC 2006

and since klg openly supports many racist politicians, such as Jesse Helms
and Rick Santorum, I find him highly hypocritical to be using that to
criticize Carter.  if carter was republican, and had been racist which he's
not, klg couldn't have card less.  
happyboy
response 60 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 18:30 UTC 2006

he also seems to like
anne "invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert 
them all to christianity" coulter

klg is a fascist, period.
cross
response 61 of 119: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 18:36 UTC 2006

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