|
Grex > Agora56 > #171: Excuse me while I get my chakras aligned... | |
|
| Author |
Message |
| 25 new of 76 responses total. |
mary
|
|
response 37 of 76:
|
Mar 16 21:30 UTC 2006 |
Some of the doctors who tend to prescribe a lot of antibiotics say it's
because a viral infection is debilitating and leaves a patient open to a
secondary, bacterial infection. They're willing to start treatment "just
in case". But the advice they get from infection control specialists is
that pre-infection antibiotics are not only unnecessary, but prophylactic
antibiotic treatment makes it very difficult to then diagnose the specific
bacteria involved in the event a resistant bacterial infection sets up
house. Too, unnecessary antibiotic use is tending to make the bugs
stronger and more resistant. We now routinely see infections that are
only senstive to one or two of the most powerful and complication-prone
antibiotics.
|
mary
|
|
response 38 of 76:
|
Mar 16 21:32 UTC 2006 |
Sindi slipped in. I took a "pet the cat" break while entering that
response. ;-) I had no choice in the matter.
|
scholar
|
|
response 39 of 76:
|
Mar 16 21:33 UTC 2006 |
I'm not a medicineman, and I'm not very familiar with antibiotics, but I
believe that, to preserve the effectiveness of the few potent antibiotics we
have, we ought to enact laws making it some sort of violation to prescribe
them frivolously.
|
jadecat
|
|
response 40 of 76:
|
Mar 16 21:36 UTC 2006 |
One of the ways I knew I should look for a new GP is when mine- without
seeing me- prescribed a Z-Pack for a sinus headache...
|
slynne
|
|
response 41 of 76:
|
Mar 16 21:36 UTC 2006 |
resp:34 I simply asked a question. If the doctor was actually worried
about my viral infection leading to a bacterial infection, that was her
opportunity to explain it to me. Unlike a lot of people, I dont think
that doctors never make mistakes nor do I expect them to know
everything. Also, I figure that since I am paying them, I am the person
in the relationship with the power and not them. They are there because
they have more training in health than I have and they are, imho, hired
in a consultant capacity. They get to suggest treatment options and I
get to choose if they are right for me. If they think a particular
treatment is right for me, they should be prepared to explain why it
is. As it happens, I know my body pretty well and I have good reasons
not to want to take anti-biotics unless they are necessary. This doctor
didnt give me any reasons why they might be necessary so I ultimately
went with a different treatment option (which, btw, worked quite well).
|
jep
|
|
response 42 of 76:
|
Mar 17 15:07 UTC 2006 |
My stepdaughter is still walking on her foot and I see no evidence she
is in any pain. I haven't talked to her about it for a couple of days,
though.
|
richard
|
|
response 43 of 76:
|
Mar 17 16:05 UTC 2006 |
I wonder how much of her improvement is psychological? He said "you are no
longer in pain" and psychologically she believed it, like a command.
|
jadecat
|
|
response 44 of 76:
|
Mar 17 16:25 UTC 2006 |
Man, I wish someone would tell me that when I have a migraine.
|
jep
|
|
response 45 of 76:
|
Mar 17 16:33 UTC 2006 |
How would I know whether the cure was psychological? It is a fact that
for a year, she had constant pain, and for half a week, she has not had
pain. I don't care why this improvement came about. I will do
everything in my power to make sure that it continues.
My stepdaughter thinks God helped her. If anyone were to convince her
that's not possible, and as a result she started hurting again, I would
exhibit violent behavior toward that person. Ya know? I am grateful
that she is feeling better. The rest is details.
|
twenex
|
|
response 46 of 76:
|
Mar 17 16:35 UTC 2006 |
How would I know whether the cure was psychological? It is a fact that
for a year, she had constant pain, and for half a week, she has not had
pain. I don't care why this improvement came about. I will do
everything in my power to make sure that it continues.
Yeah, sounds all good to me.
My stepdaughter thinks God helped her. If anyone were to convince her
that's not possible, and as a result she started hurting again, I would
exhibit violent behavior toward that person.
Was the matter-of-fact way in which you made that threat MEANT to be chilling?
|
jep
|
|
response 47 of 76:
|
Mar 17 17:10 UTC 2006 |
Twenex: I am nearly 45 years old. I weigh 240 pounds and there ain't
*none* of it that's muscle. Just how threatening could I be? I could
wipe my Cheetos crumbs onto their coat or something, I suppose.
No person here knows either the first or last name of my stepdaughter.
Oh, I don't doubt that at least half a dozen people here could find
out, but I probably know who all of those people are. None of them has
any ill will toward my stepdaughter.
If you were chilled by my remark, I'm surprised.
|
twenex
|
|
response 48 of 76:
|
Mar 17 17:17 UTC 2006 |
Probably the effect of text.
FWIW, though I don't have kids there are people on whose behalf I would
"exhibit violent behaviour towards" others if need be. Time for a debate: Who
here would exhibit violent behaviour towards others on behalf of someone close
to them if they were to come to, how shall I put it, "non-violent harm"?
|
edina
|
|
response 49 of 76:
|
Mar 17 17:33 UTC 2006 |
Me. I know it. I've become far more ruthless as I've gotten older.
|
tod
|
|
response 50 of 76:
|
Mar 17 18:17 UTC 2006 |
re #48
Time for a debate: Who
here would exhibit violent behaviour towards others on behalf of someone
close
to them if they were to come to, how shall I put it, "non-violent harm"?
Anybody who answers that incriminates themself if they say yes. Historically
though, yea, I've been known to communicate effectively. The first time my
sister got stood up on a date(the guy showed up the next day), my brother and
I roughed the guy up in our driveway. Over the years, I've learned to mind
my own business more simply because when you earn a reputation then you tend
to get duped sometimes for something that might not have happened.
|
mcnally
|
|
response 51 of 76:
|
Mar 17 18:38 UTC 2006 |
re #48: "Non-violent" is an interesting and potentially misleading way to
refer to actions which would restore someone to a condition of potentially
lifelong crippling pain, even if you would be doing so without physically
striking them.
|
tod
|
|
response 52 of 76:
|
Mar 17 19:58 UTC 2006 |
A good example would be if you gave some Brits a bad study group of meds which
shut down their organs.
|
happyboy
|
|
response 53 of 76:
|
Mar 17 20:21 UTC 2006 |
a prediction: the pain comes back gradually
over the next couple of weeks
and you guys take her back to
get some chiro...the pain goes
away but then comes back gradually
so you take her back to the chiro
the pain goes away at first but
then gradually comes back so you
take her to the chiro and the pain
goes away but then gradually...
|
scholar
|
|
response 54 of 76:
|
Mar 17 20:27 UTC 2006 |
isn't pain always psychological. :(
|
mary
|
|
response 55 of 76:
|
Mar 17 20:31 UTC 2006 |
This is a kid, happy. With issues. Why not cut her some slack.
|
jep
|
|
response 56 of 76:
|
Mar 17 20:32 UTC 2006 |
re resp:53: It beats a wheelchair. Her mother pushed her around in one
of those for a couple of hours last weekend.
Hap's not saying anything that will hurt my stepdaughter, so I don't
mind. I hope he's wrong, though.
|
bru
|
|
response 57 of 76:
|
Mar 17 20:36 UTC 2006 |
the odds of it working again if it is indeed psychological will diminsh
quickly if it does indeed return with each subsequent visit. Unless the
Doctor can come up with some viable reason for it returning and needing
continuous tune-ups.
|
tod
|
|
response 58 of 76:
|
Mar 17 20:55 UTC 2006 |
re #57
That's exactly what the chiro witchdoctor did with my stepbrother every time
until it was too late and he couldn't walk anymore. Jedi mind tricks to make
the pain "disappear"
Tapping funnybones in your spine to numb whatever ails you is as old as making
bbq.
|
mcnally
|
|
response 59 of 76:
|
Mar 17 21:08 UTC 2006 |
It's not like jep's stepdaughter is receiving any relief from the MDs they've
taken her to.
|
tod
|
|
response 60 of 76:
|
Mar 17 21:18 UTC 2006 |
I guess it beats using street dope like Kurt Cobain.
|
jadecat
|
|
response 61 of 76:
|
Mar 17 21:22 UTC 2006 |
Or like the Chriopractor was the first stop- she's been to doctors,
they've diagnosed the problem as incurable.
|