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maus
response 37 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 8 04:20 UTC 2007

Resp:36 Probably not. 
nharmon
response 38 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 8 19:42 UTC 2007

Sindi, you need to stop being so hard-headed. First of all, running
fetchmail on Grex to download POPmail is going to download the
attachments to Grex and not your home computer. Thus it would be exactly
like having the e-mail delivered locally to grex. So please don't
automatically dismiss a solution at the first sound of "POP".

Here is an example .fetchmailrc file:

   set postmaster "terrence"
   set bouncemail
   set properties ""
   poll pop.gmail.com with proto POP3
   user 'nharmon@cyberspace.org' there with password 'ilovesgmail' is
    nharmon here 
   
Basically, I would recommend you have your login script run fetchmail
when you log in, and then you could write a script to run it before
running pine and then alias "pine" to that script.
nharmon
response 39 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 8 19:45 UTC 2007

Mike, did you happen to discuss with the person from Google about how
accounts are set up? Obviously Grex would want a way of doing so
automatically, or with minimal staff effort. I suppose it would be a
great way of implementing an e-mail opt-in system. What about resetting
passwords and other such things?
mcnally
response 40 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 01:16 UTC 2007

 I discussed that primarily in the context of outsourcing issues for
 the ISP I work for and the answer may be different for the slightly
 different program that Grex, as a non-profit, would fall under, but
 in the case that I discussed with them there is a programming API
 available to the organization to handle account creation and removal.
 I suspect it can also deal with password resets, etc.

 I don't, of course, have any direct experience with it.

 I might be willing to investigate further next month and maybe set up
 a test program for a couple of users if Grex is willing to register a 
 throwaway domain name that we can test with.  I'm too busy this month
 to do anything on such a project, however.
keesan
response 41 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 02:11 UTC 2007

nharmon, what would I change in the script other than the login and password?
What is "terrence".
keesan
response 42 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 02:19 UTC 2007

fetchmailconf is no longer complaining about a lack of python.  Now it says
there is no module Tkinter.
I used the sample .fetchmailrc substituting my gmail address and password and
my grex login on the user line, and the connection failed while I was trying
to check with fetchmail -c -v (check verbose).  Who/what is terrence?
cmcgee
response 43 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 02:30 UTC 2007

Sindi, why don't you consolidate your running commentary into the Agora
post where more people can find it and comment on it.  
cmcgee
response 44 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 02:30 UTC 2007

It would not be appropriate to link this one into Agora.
nharmon
response 45 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 03:39 UTC 2007

Sorry, "terrence" is a local login that should read "keesan". Not sure
why that is in my fetchmailrc. Strange.

Anyway, we may find a need to experiment with downloading mail from
gmail. If I get some time in the next couple of days I can see what I
can come up with in terms of a mini-howto or something.
mcnally
response 46 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 05:55 UTC 2007

 re #41:  By any chance did you read any of the Google search results I
 pointed you towards?  It might be easier to follow directions from
 someone who has actually done this before than to ask nharmon, who would
 have to figure it out first.  Since other people have offered their
 expertise why not use their information rather than request that he do
 your work for you?

 In general terms, you will probably need to:

  a)  enable POP mail retrieval for your Gmail account, which is not
      turned on by default.
  b)  read Google's (or someone else's) directions on which ports and
      what server name to use for incoming mail.
  c)  configure fetchmail accordingly.
cmcgee
response 47 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 13:10 UTC 2007

Folks, PLEASE move this conversation.

remmers
response 48 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 13:27 UTC 2007

Re #47:  Good idea.  This is the "welcome to the restarted coop
conference" item.  People aren't going to know to look for email
discussion here.  What's the best place to move the conversation to?
cmcgee
response 49 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 13:35 UTC 2007

There is a discussion thread on exactly this topic in Agora.  I would
suggest linking THAT thread to garage.  I'll copy and paste the relevant
entries here, and freeze this thread.
cmcgee
response 50 of 50: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 13:40 UTC 2007

Moved to Summer 2007 Agora Item 143.
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