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twenex
response 36 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 21:03 UTC 2006

Because he's not a damned tedious literalist?
slynne
response 37 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 22:04 UTC 2006

HAHAHAHAHAHA! 
nharmon
response 38 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 22:07 UTC 2006

Using religion as a restraint instead of a weapon...good advice Todd. 
I think a lot of people need to be told that.
tod
response 39 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 22:10 UTC 2006

Its all about self discipline, not inquisition. Right?
nharmon
response 40 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 22:24 UTC 2006

Darn tootin
happyboy
response 41 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 23:04 UTC 2006

re20

never heard him say anything racist, nathan?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549
gull
response 42 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 23:05 UTC 2006

Re resp:35: Because figures of speech add color to language. 
nharmon
response 43 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 23:21 UTC 2006

Re 41: No I have not heard him say anything racist. If I have, I do 
not remember it. I'm not saying he hasn't either, just they either 
weren't racist enough for me to remember, or I wasn't listening when 
he said it.
happyboy
response 44 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 23:23 UTC 2006

not racist enough to remember.

hokey smokes.
tod
response 45 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 23:54 UTC 2006

Tell us about the black guy on your wrestling team Nathan! ;)
rcurl
response 46 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 01:40 UTC 2006

Re #41: what does "There are no autheists in foxholes" mean as a figure of 
speech?
nharmon
response 47 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 01:42 UTC 2006

Re #46: My interpretation would be that traumatic experiences usually
cure people of their atheism.
marcvh
response 48 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 02:38 UTC 2006

That sounds like a literal interpretation, not a figure of speech.

As used in #22, it presumably means that people who disparage some particular
entity may change their view when they find themselves needing help from
that same entity.  But it's not normally used as a simile.
naftee
response 49 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 04:18 UTC 2006

re 44
darn tootin'
rcurl
response 50 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 06:15 UTC 2006

Then it is really an adage, not a figure of speech. 
klg
response 51 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 11:54 UTC 2006

According to "teachers of English"

"Figure of speech
"A figure of speech, sometimes termed a rhetorical figure, is a word or 
phrase that departs from straight-forward, literal language. Figures of 
speech are often used and crafted for the purpose of emphasis, 
freshness of expression or clarity. However, clarity may also suffer 
from its use.

"Adage
"An adage is a pithy saying that sums up a particular subject or 
situation. The term "law" is sometimes applied to these, although they 
are usually less rigorous ideas than legal laws or physical laws."


Based on the experts' definitions, I'd say it is both a figure of 
speech and an adage.
johnnie
response 52 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 13:54 UTC 2006

I hate to agree with klg, so I won't.  "No atheists etc" could be termed
a figure of speech easily enough, but I suspect FoS is more correctly
reserved for things like, "you're pulling my leg" and "I'm so hungry I
could eat a horse".
rcurl
response 53 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 15:42 UTC 2006

The expression in question hardly "departs from straight-forward, literal 
language". In fact, it is meant to convey what the speaker thinks is an 
axiom.
klg
response 54 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 17:26 UTC 2006

The literal language would be that "People under fire and fearing for 
their lives will believe in God at the time."  I doubt that anyone 
would bet his life that it would apply to 100% of people in that 
situation.  Also, it would depend on where the foxhole happened to be.  
I doubt being in a foxhole in one's backyard would have a life-altering 
effect on any person.
happyboy
response 55 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 17:48 UTC 2006

i love it when you tell me war stories, kerry!
tod
response 56 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 17:52 UTC 2006

Ask me and I'll tell you what war did to my mindset.  The first thing I did
when I got back to the states was get a tattoo of an upside cross with "No
One" bannered across it.  Fundies and deeply religious people were now people
I despised as weak sheep.  Yea, I felt a closer bond to the Almighty but it
wasn't a bond nurtured in churches or with preaching.  People who think there
will be a rapture and star trek transporter trips to Heaven are idiots and
deserve every dime stolen from them by their clerical cult leaders.

happyboy
response 57 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:18 UTC 2006

rapture, a belief that didn't start until the 1840's.
tod
response 58 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:28 UTC 2006

I never heard of it til that Blondie album
happyboy
response 59 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 19:00 UTC 2006

oh yeah!
rcurl
response 60 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:44 UTC 2006

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