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Grex > Coop7 > #128: Web-Page Building on Grex |  |
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remmers
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response 350 of 382:
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Feb 11 04:03 UTC 1996 |
I sent Rep. Rivers a letter of concern also and received exactly
the same reply.
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scg
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response 351 of 382:
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Feb 11 05:21 UTC 1996 |
Me too.
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tsty
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response 352 of 382:
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Feb 11 07:25 UTC 1996 |
i'll bet the signatures match, as well. Nicely weasel-worded form
letter though.
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chelsea
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response 353 of 382:
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Feb 11 14:46 UTC 1996 |
I bet she voted the way the majority of her constituents
would have wanted her to vote.
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popcorn
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response 354 of 382:
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Feb 11 16:36 UTC 1996 |
The first time I read the letter, it seemed pretty noncommittal. But
re-reading it as I typed it in to Grex, I decided its main message is that
communication on the Internet should be held to the same standards as any
other kind of communication, not stricter and not looser. And ya know, the
more I think about that, the more I think it makes a lot of sense.
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ajax
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response 355 of 382:
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Feb 11 17:47 UTC 1996 |
But there is no standard for "any other kind of communication;" different
types of communication are held to different standards (broadcast TV and
radio vs. cable TV or live speech, for example).
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popcorn
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response 356 of 382:
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Feb 11 18:23 UTC 1996 |
Ok, so you cobble together a new standard from the already-existing ones for
other media, using whichever standards seem to apply best to the internet.
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scg
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response 357 of 382:
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Feb 11 18:42 UTC 1996 |
re 352:
I've gotten two letters from her about this. I don't remember the
signature on the second one, which was presumably part of a mass mailing to
people she had promised to send a follow-up letter to, but I remember that
the first one looked pretty obvioudly signed with a ball point pen, rather
than a stamp or printer.
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popcorn
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response 358 of 382:
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Feb 11 21:56 UTC 1996 |
Same here. The signature on the second one is a lot harder to decide about.
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scott
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response 359 of 382:
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Feb 11 22:17 UTC 1996 |
I'm pretty good at figuring how the signature got printed, if you're that
curious. :)
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adbarr
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response 360 of 382:
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Feb 12 00:39 UTC 1996 |
Do the interests of parents with resect to their children deserve
consideration? I agree with what vm said here.
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popcorn
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response 361 of 382:
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Feb 12 06:48 UTC 1996 |
Well, but there are parents who want their children to have access to
everything, and parents who want their children to have access only to things
they've approved of. Which interests of which parents should be considered?
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rcurl
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response 362 of 382:
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Feb 12 08:01 UTC 1996 |
The parents of children should consider their interests with respect
to their children, and act accordingly. They should leave everyone
else to do the same.
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tsty
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response 363 of 382:
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Feb 12 09:24 UTC 1996 |
same as television, there is an on/off power switch. Of course some
parents want the damn gummint to control the on/off power switch.
i disagree.
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rcurl
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response 364 of 382:
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Feb 12 16:30 UTC 1996 |
Another perspective that came to me while on a boring drive ...if parents
bring up their children to value intelligence and good taste (parental
choice, but so long as it is done), then the children are pretty well
able to deal with anything written that they encounter. It seems that
parents that are unable to do this turn to the government to correct
their failure by clamping censorship on society.
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abortion
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response 365 of 382:
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Feb 12 18:14 UTC 1996 |
The other point that I keep making to people is that the computer,
unlike the television, has uses other than as a communication device.
There are such things as external modems, and such things can generally
be detached with relative ease. Likewise, even internal modems require
phone jacks. Is it so difficult for a parent who does not have the
ability to raise their child to be responsible and critical to at least
take the personal responsibility of disconnecting the modem access when
they can't monitor the computer?
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robh
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response 366 of 382:
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Feb 12 18:42 UTC 1996 |
Apparently it is. Much easier to throw out the First Amendment.
(What is this obsession our culture has with not taking responsibility
for one's actions, anyway? Whose idea was this?)
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abortion
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response 367 of 382:
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Feb 12 21:25 UTC 1996 |
(I could give my opinion, Rob, but this isn't the proper forum, and
I'm not willing to take responsibility for the response I'd get.)
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carson
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response 368 of 382:
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Feb 13 19:38 UTC 1996 |
(those parens are mine...)
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abortion
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response 369 of 382:
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Feb 15 22:12 UTC 1996 |
I've actually used parens to indicate a whispered, theatrical, or aside
voice for some time, Carson...
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srw
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response 370 of 382:
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Feb 16 05:41 UTC 1996 |
A blow was struck by the courts today against the CDA. A "TRO" was issued
in Phildelphia against the enforcement of the "indecency" provisions.
No TRO was issued against the patently offensive, or obscene material,
nor against the abortion provisions.
(TRO = Temporary Restraining Order)
see http://www.eff.org/pub/Alerts/eff-aclu_cda_lawsuit_021596.update
or just go to www.eff.org and follow the obvious link.
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srw
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response 371 of 382:
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Feb 25 07:01 UTC 1996 |
Back to the issue of web pages here on Grex.
We have had two weeks without any significant intoduction of multimedia files.
So the users do seem to be catching on. We have seen an increase in web
traffic nevertheless. We are now shipping just over 5MB per day through our
web server. The total number is not too disturbing as a system-wide total,
but I am concerned about the distribution of the bandwidth.
One user is responsible for 1/5 or just over 1 MB per day of transfers.
The site is http://www.cyberspace.org/~thed
It contains a lot of textual information about short wave radio.
I am beginning to think it would be appropriate to tell this user that because
of the high hit rate, he needs to be looking for another site to move his
short wave radio pages to.
So far I have said nothing to him, though. This is another gray area in our
policy. How much bandwidth is too much? It isn't specified exactly, but
perhaps we can all agree that one user's pages should not do 1MB/day ??
I don't know, and would be interested in the opinion of others.
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rcurl
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response 372 of 382:
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Feb 25 18:27 UTC 1996 |
You are the most qualified person to make a judgement of that. Float
a number and if it seems acceptable, implement it. I have no problem
with 1M/day.
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robh
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response 373 of 382:
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Feb 25 19:40 UTC 1996 |
As with the "business accounts" being discussed elsewhere, I'm sure
that if thed had easy access to a better Webserver somewhere else,
his pages wouldn't be here.
It wouldn't hurt to ask, though. The worst that can happen is,
he'll say he can't move the pages.
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janc
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response 374 of 382:
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Feb 25 21:49 UTC 1996 |
I might make a very gentle suggestion, encouraging him to look around for
other places, maybe suggesting some (does nether support web pages?), but
saying that it is OK to leave it here for now if he doesn't have better
alternatives.
I don't think a popular web page of this sort is really all that far from
Grex's mission. We shouldn't slam the door on it just because the page is
apparantly good enough to get lots of traffic.
Maybe we should view Grex's web pages as kind of a "New Center" deal. A
chance for people to get started on using hte web, a haven for startups,
but once something becomes established and high-traffic, we would want to
encourage people to find more appropriate sites.
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