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rcurl
response 35 of 77: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 05:08 UTC 1999

Yes, I just used some for filling in an apple pie.
remmers
response 36 of 77: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 18:06 UTC 1999

Re resp:33 - I have days like that too, and usually give in to the
urge (but try to keep to the 40/30/30 ratio of macronutrients when
I do). So far it hasn't resulted in my gaining any weight back.
beeswing
response 37 of 77: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 04:43 UTC 1999

Ehhh. It caught up with me. I am up about a pound and a half. But some 
of that's probably water. I didn't eat well all weekend, definitely too 
much fattening things. It's showing in my skin too. Why did I 
deliberately do this to myself?
otter
response 38 of 77: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 15:28 UTC 1999

ref #37: Good question. Have you come up with an answer?
scg
response 39 of 77: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 05:21 UTC 1999

Interesting item.  I just discovered it.

I'm guessing the pound or two bees was talking about having gained
probably wasn't anything significant.  When I've had regular access to a
scale, I've found myself fluctuationg by that sort of amount very regularly.

Anyhow...  I dont' own a scale, in part because I've never gotten around to
buying one, and in part because I've never been convinced that weight alone
was a terribly good indicator of health.  However, I was discovering last
winter that in addition to looking fatter than I had ever looked before and
having a lot of my older clothes fitting quite tightly, long walks or climbing
stairs were rather difficult.  This became especially noticable when visiting
my parents in their London townhouse, with every room on a different floor,
such that I was constantly going up and down stairs.  I found the first couple
of days to be rather exhausing, before I started getting used to it and having
an easier time of it.  In the couple of years before that I had gone from bike
racing, and training for that a couple of hours a day, to being mostly
sedentary, and eating whatever horribly fatty food was available when I
remembered to eat, which wasn't on any sort of regular schedule.  I weighed
myself at that point, and discovered that I weighed around 190 pounds (up from
120 when I stopped getting taller, and 140 the last time I had been living
a "healthy" lifestyle).  I set out to get myself back into shape.

That trip to London helped a lot in getting started.  The constant running
up and down stairs forced me to get into some semblance of shape very quickly,
as did walking everywhere.  Visiting people who were eating reasonably healthy
food on a fairly regular schedule helped as well, since after a few weeks my
body started expecting that.  By the time I left there, I was already feeling
much better physically than I had when I got there.  When I got home I started
eating on a much more regular schedule than I had been before, eating
breakfast (which I hadn't done on a regular basis in years), lunch somewhere
close to lunch time, rather than forgetting about it all day, and dinner at
something resembling a usual dinner time, when I previously would have finally
been getting around to eating lunch.  Without even thinking about it, I cut
out almost all of the vending machine junk food I had been eating before,
since eating on a more regular schedule meant that I wasn't getting hungry
for snacks in between.  I think I'm now eating more food than I was when I
was gaining lots of weight, which seems counter-intuitive, but I've read that
the body starts storing lots of energy as fat when it doesn't know whether
it's going to get fed again anytime soon, so eating on a regular schedule
probably helped with that a lot.  I think I'm eating a lot less really greasy
food than I was before, mostly because when I'm exercising regularly greasy
food stops tasting very good, but I haven't been ebing very picky about what
I eat for my meals, as long as I'm eating something.

The other piece of what I started doing was regular exercise.  The biggest
thing has been lots of walking (at least an hour, sometimes a lot more, almost
every day).  The time I've been spending walking is time I previously would
have spent at work or watching TV.  I seem to have downgraded the importance
of my job in my time priorities.  Being less of a workaholic is probably a
good thing in general.  I also started biking again, which I hadn't done much
in the last few years.  I haven't managed to work biking into my week day
schedule much, but lately I've been doing an hour or two of road riding on
one weekend day, and a few hours of mountain biking on the other weekend day.

It's now been eight months.  The most important change from my perspective
is that I now feel a lot better than I did before.  I'm also finding that I
have a lot more energy.  I haven't weighed myself recently, but I'm assuming
I've probably also lost a considerable amount of weight.  I think I look a
lot thinner, and clothes that were quite tight a few months ago are now rather
loose.  I'm assuming that if I were to go back to my previous sluggishness
and poor eating habits I would probably once again start feeling like a slug,
and would once again start gaining weight quickly, but I have no plans to do
that.
remmers
response 40 of 77: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 11:06 UTC 1999

Congrats on your progress, Steve. I've found that healthy, regular
eating, plus a reasonable amount of exercise, works wonders. And feeling
so much better is motivation for staying on track.
beeswing
response 41 of 77: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 04:17 UTC 1999

I've been off track lately. I had more free time and was more sedentary 
during the summer, and it's taken its toll. Now school has started back 
and I have less free time and am forced to do a lot of walking. The 
first week was hard... my classes and work are on the fourth floor and 
the elevator's too slow to bother with. Now I need to incorporate the 
gym again, I haven't been in over a month. I am thinking of trying a 
yoga class too.
keesan
response 42 of 77: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 20:04 UTC 1999

I lived on the thirteenth floor one year in Macedonia (the first floor was
one flight up) and decided not to use the elevator.  This was a handy skill
as it was often broken and I was one of the few people who stopped caring.
The first few days were somewhat tiring, of course.  (There was also one
person who managed to walk into the elevator shaft when the elevator was not
there, which may have converted a few other people to walking.  The dorms were
not always maintained properly.)
eeyore
response 43 of 77: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 02:56 UTC 1999

Well, I've been working again at losing weight...eating a bit better, trying
to get more walking done on a regular basis....And managed to drop 8 lbs. in
3 weeks so far.  Just need to drop two more by next Sat. for the 10 I wanted
to drop by my brothers wedding.  And once those ten are gone, I'll go for
another ten....:)
otter
response 44 of 77: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 22:51 UTC 1999

Slow and steady, the same way it went on...
At last count (which I haven't really been keeping) I'm down 57 pounds since
the last week of January. Wlaking is good, and helps bunches. But in order
to feel my best, I need to push my body to (and past!) its limits. My brain
needs that last burning, screaming rep or the forehead-to-the-floor stretch
to feel like I've done something. And needs it on a fairly regular basis. So
I walk four times a week for about an hour and Firm the other three. Seems
to be working so far; I look much smaller than I should for what I weigh.
scott
response 45 of 77: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 11:19 UTC 1999

Wow.  Well, that *is* the way to go.
eeyore
response 46 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 6 05:34 UTC 1999

WOO-WOO OTTER!!!!!  :)

Well, I put all the weight back on.  But I'm starting to work at taking it
back off again.  For a few weeks there I could do nothing but stuff my face
with food.  But I'm working on cutting back again, and so far I'm starting
to get a little better.  But I've had several people tell me that I'm looking
thinner...and even though I've put the actual weight back on, I've not put
the bulk on....this makes me a *happy* Meg. :)
otter
response 47 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 00:20 UTC 1999

er...that should have been "47". Musta lost some brain cells, too. <gulp>
Anyway, I'm on steriods right now for breathing purposes, and they do two very
nasty things. 1) they make me incredibly hungry. 2) they make me all puffy
and fluffy; my face looks like a chipmunk's.
For the appetite, I've been having half a piece of fruit every time I just
know I'll die without food. Also drinking a glass of water before I eat
anything seems to help.
For the Puffies, there's nothing I can think of but to grin and wear fat
pants.
beeswing
response 48 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 04:49 UTC 1999

Drinking water may also help the puffiness. 

I also starved on steroids. It drove me nuts. I just could not eat 
enough when I took them. Though I didn't notice any weight gain.

I thought they would give me energy, but they wore me out. 
remmers
response 49 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 14:54 UTC 1999

Not having lost any more weight in a long time, I've not been posting
new responses to my "weight loss diary".  At least I'm not gaining any
back, which is a good thing.

Although I'm now at a weight that is considered "not overweight" by
current standards, I would like to lose another 5 or 6 pounds.  Sigh, I
think that means I'll have to start working out a lot more intensively
than I have been.
keesan
response 50 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 16:19 UTC 1999

Why do you want to lose 5 pounds when you are at a stable weight and feel (and
look) healthy?  A little extra weight is an advantage in cold weather.  I
usually gain weight in the fall and lose it in hot weather.  The body is set
up to put on a bit more weight as the days grow shorter and colder.  This
protects against chills.
remmers
response 51 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 18:40 UTC 1999

Vanity, sheer vanity.
keesan
response 52 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 21:59 UTC 1999

You looked great last I saw you.  The skinniest friend I had in college was
always trying to lose weight.  She looked fat to herself.  There are ways to
measure whether your weight is appropriate for your body build.  Want to
borrow my book?  You need a pair of calipers which you can also borrow.  You
measure your wrist and the flesh below your upper arm.
remmers
response 53 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 17:28 UTC 1999

Thanks, but the outcome of that wouldn't make any difference in my
attitude, since it's just a vanity thing.  I've measured a different
way, using a tape measure, and I'm within the acceptable range.
remmers
response 54 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 17:45 UTC 1999

Okay, I've decided to go for it and lose another nine pounds.  My plan
for doing so:

(1) Watch what I eat more closely.

(2) Exercise more.

I'll keep y'all posted.
keesan
response 55 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 16:56 UTC 1999

I suggest incorporating more exercise into your ordinary life, rather than
doing an exercise program.  For instance, scrape and paint your own garage.
(Thanks for the leftover paint, we have been using it as primer).
Grind your own flour. Make your own bread without a machine.  If you have a
lawn do not own a power mower, or snow blower, or leaf blower.  Bike places
that are too far to walk.
remmers
response 56 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 17:18 UTC 1999

Most of the things you mention are of a sporadic or seasonal nature,
which ain't good enough.  Nor am I going to give up the power mower
or snow blower.  That said, in addition to an exercise program I
*do* look for ways to incorporate more exercise into my daily life,
for example walking downtown instead of driving.

But exercise programs have worked for me in the past, so I'm not
going to abandon that approach.  I'll let y'all know it's coming
along.  (That reminds me, I have yet to do my power walk around
the neighborhood today...)
mary
response 57 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 10:21 UTC 1999

I believe in paying people to do the work we don't want to do.  That
leaves us free to enjoy our time off doing exercise and other activities
we enjoy and allows others to make money.  Anything involving electricity
or being two stories off the ground on a ladder gets contracted out to
someone with good health insurance.  ;-) 
remmers
response 58 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 16:53 UTC 1999

That too.

Actually, Sindi's advice has merit, but it's essentially the same advice
she gave when I first posted this item a year and a half ago.  I didn't
follow the advice then and lost over 25 pounds.  So I think that not
following Sindi's advice has proved to be a winning strategy for me.  :)
i
response 59 of 77: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 21:52 UTC 1999

Another couple years at -16 lbs./year and you'll start taking her
advice more seriously!
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