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Grex > Coop13 > #387: Cyberspace Communications finances for 2006 | |
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aruba
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response 35 of 47:
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Jan 19 17:08 UTC 2007 |
Indeed. It wasn't so long ago that things looked pretty bleak. So before
we start reducing our income, let's talk about what to do while we have a
surplus.
mcnally was the only one to answer my question about what we could do that
wouldn't require a lot of staff time. Are there any other suggestions? We
actually have a spare (rebuilt) disk, sitting on my desk, that could be
installed in Grex at any time. (The result of sending in a disk for
warranty repair, and buying a new one at the same time.)
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cross
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response 36 of 47:
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Jan 19 18:08 UTC 2007 |
er, I'd like to point out that installing a new disk into grex and moving mail
to does require a bit of staff time. In fact, it would require about the same
amount of time it would take to move grex to a RAID system.
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remmers
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response 37 of 47:
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Jan 19 18:17 UTC 2007 |
Is "a bit" the same as "a lot"?
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cross
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response 38 of 47:
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Jan 19 19:10 UTC 2007 |
It depends on who's doing it, and how they transfered the data.
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mcnally
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response 39 of 47:
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Jan 19 22:53 UTC 2007 |
Installing a new disk onto Grex and moving mail onto it probably requires
no more than an hour of staff time in my estimation.
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cross
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response 40 of 47:
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Jan 20 02:37 UTC 2007 |
Similarily, I'd guess that putting in a RAID storage system would require
about half a day. The hardest part would probably be installing the harware
into the chasis; transfering the data and setting up the system to boot from
the RAID would be simple but just take a while.
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jep
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response 41 of 47:
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Jan 20 04:35 UTC 2007 |
re resp:35: Mark, I am in favor of Grex being financially secure. I
admire and appreciate the job you in particular, and the Board in
general, have done to get Grex into good position with it's money. But
there *is* a point where it's secure enough. It's my feeling that Grex
is there. It's taking in money which it doesn't need.
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remmers
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response 42 of 47:
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Jan 20 14:29 UTC 2007 |
It sounds like #39 would be a reasonable thing for somebody to do, as
it's not very time-consuming and would alleviate a vexing problem.
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maus
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response 43 of 47:
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Jan 20 14:49 UTC 2007 |
Does anyone have an order-of-magnitude guess of the cost of buying or
renting an anti-spam/anti-phish appliance? Maybe something like:
- http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/products/spam_overview.php
- https://www.mailfoundry.com/store/category_537368463fae/
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http://www.mcafee.com/us/smb/products/anti_spam/secure_internet_gateway.h
tml
My understandign is that the staff time to put one of these in is fairly
small, and it would only consume one IP number and only require
changing, like, 2 lines in our DNS zone table.
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aruba
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response 44 of 47:
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Mar 9 21:50 UTC 2007 |
I finally got around to looking up the links mentioned in #43. Those look
like serious anti-spam appliances; on the order of $1000-1500 apiece. Does
anyone have any experience with any of them? If they actually work well,
then maybe we should consider one.
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nharmon
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response 45 of 47:
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Mar 9 22:18 UTC 2007 |
I think the appliances work pretty well. We have a McAfee anti-spam
appliance. However they would add to our physical footprint.
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mcnally
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response 46 of 47:
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Mar 10 00:48 UTC 2007 |
I wasn't very impressed when we demo'ed a Barracuda Networks spam
appliance at the ISP I work for and unless I'm confusing them with
another similar company I think there's a per-user component to their
pricing, which would be very undesirable for Grex, which has thousands
of mostly inactive users.
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nharmon
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response 47 of 47:
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Mar 10 02:29 UTC 2007 |
I can't speak on Barracuda's licensing, but McAfee does not have a
per-user licensing cost outside of them recommending different hardware
sizes depending on mail load.
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