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25 new of 563 responses total.
edina
response 349 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 17:52 UTC 2006

First off, what's a "whack"?  Secondly, how old is the kid?  Thirdly, if you
were in a contentious split with your ex, would you HONESTLY hit your child,
knowing it could cost you visitation with your child?  You can bitch and moan
about how it doesn't allow you to parent your child YOUR way, but bottom line
is that after a certain point in time, hitting your child ceases to be
effective.  There are a million other ways to punish a child besides hitting.
happyboy
response 350 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 17:57 UTC 2006

what proof is there that the kid was hit?
nharmon
response 351 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 17:59 UTC 2006

> would you HONESTLY hit your child, knowing it could cost you 
> visitation with your child?

Some people have problems controlling their emotions, and lash out 
irrationally.
edina
response 352 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 18:00 UTC 2006

And they should not be allowed to see their children unsupervised.
tod
response 353 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 18:42 UTC 2006

 First off, what's a "whack"?
Park your car in the bad neighborhood and wait a few minutes.
richard
response 354 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 22:40 UTC 2006

re #327 ea, not only is anne married now, but she's a grandmother!  you've
been gone a lot longer than you realized eh?   :)
jadecat
response 355 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 13:14 UTC 2006

Well since that happened a month to the day after the wedding... Kids
grow up so fast these days... *sighs*

 ;)
jadecat
response 356 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 13:14 UTC 2006

IHB- it's Friday, I have plans to have a couple of my girls over
tonight, and shopping plans for tomorrow. Is good.
slynne
response 357 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 15:23 UTC 2006

IHB I just realized that I have enough frequent flyer miles for a coach 
class ticket! :) I think I'll try to mooch off some folks in Seattle 
for a week this summer
richard
response 358 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 16:37 UTC 2006

re #357 or you could buy a coach class ticket and use your miles for a first
class upgrade, and get to sit up at the front of the plane in the nice seats
where you can drink free booze with the rich and famous
slynne
response 359 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:00 UTC 2006

Or I could buy a ticket to Seattle and then have enough miles for a 
free ticket to Hawaii!
happyboy
response 360 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:23 UTC 2006

dude!
mcnally
response 361 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:27 UTC 2006

 Flying to Hawaii from the mainland generally takes more miles than
 getting a coach-class ticket from point to point within the 48 contiguous
 states.  
marcvh
response 362 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:29 UTC 2006

Cool!  Once you get your email fixed you can let us know your schedule.
happyboy
response 363 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:38 UTC 2006

yeah, what's up with the email?
slynne
response 364 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:22 UTC 2006

My email is broken because I am lazy and because Yahoo's tech support 
is non-existant. I am thinking about switching to gmail. 
marcvh
response 365 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:28 UTC 2006

I'll be glad to send you an invite, but I'd need to know where to send
it...
slynne
response 366 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:39 UTC 2006

slynne30@yahoo.com
jep
response 367 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 19:40 UTC 2006

Just to review the situation for those who aren't familiar with the 
facts that I have described...

My stepson said he was punched in the head, quite hard, by his father.  
This is how his father woke him up at about midnight to discuss his 
anger with the boy's mother for marrying me.

The boy, who is 13, and who doesn't like me much at all, asked his 
mother to ask me to join him in his bedroom and sit on his bed so he 
could describe what happened.  My wife said she could feel a bump on 
the boy's head.  I could not feel a bump, but then I'd never touched 
his head before that evening.

I choose to accept the word of my stepson.  I will always believe my 
kids (and stepkids) until I am forced into not believing them.

Yes, I am cognizant of the father's feelings.  As many of you know, I 
have been through a not dissimilar situation myself.  I have never met 
the kids' father.  I tried once.  Several months before our marriage, I 
did go to the father's house when the kids were with their mother, to 
meet him and talk with him.  For whatever reason, no one answered the 
door.  Maybe no one was home, maybe he and his parents (he lives with 
his parents) didn't want to talk to me.  I don't know.

I haven't gone back to his house since the hitting incident.  I haven't 
discussed everything here that the boy told me, but I believe I have 
reason not to go back to his house.  Say I don't want to escalate the 
conflict if you'd like.

I have not, and will not, say anything bad about their dad to my 
stepkids.  I won't let them say anything bad to my son about his 
mother, either.  If the stepkids want to talk to me, I listen.  It's 
just grossly unfair to the stepkids and their dad for me to say 
anything about him.  I have very strong views on this subject.
tod
response 368 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:08 UTC 2006

Is the guy an alcoholic or just a midget?  The boy is 13.  It wont be long
before he can kick the old man's butt and then the old man won't have anybody
he can intimidate into being a serogate sympathetic mommy for him.
That's a real toughie situation, jep.  My father never laid a finger on me
but my step dad tried once.  Luckily, gramps (not my dad cuz he's a pacifist)
encouraged my participation in kickboxing so by the time step-dad and I got
into a confrontation (he was choking my mom to death) then I was able to crack
his head open pretty handily.  Its not something I'm proud of and emotionally
it sucked really bad (especially since mom got the cops after me) but at least
I didn't take a beating like my mom.  I'm recommending you get him into some
kind of self defense class just for the sake of self esteem.  People might
frown on that idea but trust me..its not a bad idea when there's an abuser
somewhere in the immediate family.  Meditation and focus from those types of
sports help relieve unseen mental stress which could adversely affect him in
other parts of his life.
jep
response 369 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:41 UTC 2006

He's an 80 pound 13 year old.  His dad is 6'2" and I guess about 260 
pounds.  My stepson is running track this spring.  If he has to go back 
to his dad's, maybe that will help him.  You will understand, I hate 
being forced into this course of action, but I will try to make sure he 
(and the girls) don't have to go back to their dad's house.
keesan
response 370 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 23:09 UTC 2006

Could they meet each other some place where there are other people around,
not related to them, such as a public building?
happyboy
response 371 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 23:33 UTC 2006

i'm with tod on the martial arts angle.  learning to run really 
fast is a good start as well.
richard
response 372 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 03:02 UTC 2006

I think JEP needs to spend time with this kid's father.  Take the guy 
out for a beer and just talk.  Get to know him.  Because right now you 
are basing your opinions of him, and therefore your actions, on what 
your wife is telling you.  You need to hear his side of things and not 
just take her word for it.  If he still cares about his ex-wife, he may 
just be concerned whether/if you'll be a good husband for her.  You 
deal with his concerns, and he can deal with yours.  Man to man.
glenda
response 373 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 04:19 UTC 2006

Richard, get real.  Bad idea, very bad idea.
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