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25 new of 563 responses total.
richard
response 344 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 17:37 UTC 2006

also kids can exaggerate situations, particularly when it involves parents
and he/she is trying to gain favor or attention with one parent over another.
you say "hitting" and it has all sorts of connotations, if you said "slapping"
or "spanking" could it be exaggerated into "hitting">
happyboy
response 345 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 17:40 UTC 2006

what proof is there that he hit the kid?
edina
response 346 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 17:44 UTC 2006

Richard, while I can see you are trying to be "helpful", I find what you are
saying so, STUPID.  First off, I'm pretty sure John and his wife are aware
of this.  Secondly, if they didn't report it and the child said somethign in
school, the child could be removed from *both* homes for his own safety. 
Schools are mandatory reporters.

Kids do lie.  Kids exaggerate.  We all know this - we've all been there.  That
being said, I don't doubt John and his judgment in this situation.  And the
fact that you are doing your "red herring dance of love" yet again....well,
I find it offensive.
tod
response 347 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 17:46 UTC 2006

What proof is there that the kid didn't deserve a whack for something else?
nharmon
response 348 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 17:51 UTC 2006

SPARE THA ROD AND SPOILT THE CHILD
edina
response 349 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 17:52 UTC 2006

First off, what's a "whack"?  Secondly, how old is the kid?  Thirdly, if you
were in a contentious split with your ex, would you HONESTLY hit your child,
knowing it could cost you visitation with your child?  You can bitch and moan
about how it doesn't allow you to parent your child YOUR way, but bottom line
is that after a certain point in time, hitting your child ceases to be
effective.  There are a million other ways to punish a child besides hitting.
happyboy
response 350 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 17:57 UTC 2006

what proof is there that the kid was hit?
nharmon
response 351 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 17:59 UTC 2006

> would you HONESTLY hit your child, knowing it could cost you 
> visitation with your child?

Some people have problems controlling their emotions, and lash out 
irrationally.
edina
response 352 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 18:00 UTC 2006

And they should not be allowed to see their children unsupervised.
tod
response 353 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 18:42 UTC 2006

 First off, what's a "whack"?
Park your car in the bad neighborhood and wait a few minutes.
richard
response 354 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 22:40 UTC 2006

re #327 ea, not only is anne married now, but she's a grandmother!  you've
been gone a lot longer than you realized eh?   :)
jadecat
response 355 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 13:14 UTC 2006

Well since that happened a month to the day after the wedding... Kids
grow up so fast these days... *sighs*

 ;)
jadecat
response 356 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 13:14 UTC 2006

IHB- it's Friday, I have plans to have a couple of my girls over
tonight, and shopping plans for tomorrow. Is good.
slynne
response 357 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 15:23 UTC 2006

IHB I just realized that I have enough frequent flyer miles for a coach 
class ticket! :) I think I'll try to mooch off some folks in Seattle 
for a week this summer
richard
response 358 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 16:37 UTC 2006

re #357 or you could buy a coach class ticket and use your miles for a first
class upgrade, and get to sit up at the front of the plane in the nice seats
where you can drink free booze with the rich and famous
slynne
response 359 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:00 UTC 2006

Or I could buy a ticket to Seattle and then have enough miles for a 
free ticket to Hawaii!
happyboy
response 360 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:23 UTC 2006

dude!
mcnally
response 361 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:27 UTC 2006

 Flying to Hawaii from the mainland generally takes more miles than
 getting a coach-class ticket from point to point within the 48 contiguous
 states.  
marcvh
response 362 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:29 UTC 2006

Cool!  Once you get your email fixed you can let us know your schedule.
happyboy
response 363 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:38 UTC 2006

yeah, what's up with the email?
slynne
response 364 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:22 UTC 2006

My email is broken because I am lazy and because Yahoo's tech support 
is non-existant. I am thinking about switching to gmail. 
marcvh
response 365 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:28 UTC 2006

I'll be glad to send you an invite, but I'd need to know where to send
it...
slynne
response 366 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:39 UTC 2006

slynne30@yahoo.com
jep
response 367 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 19:40 UTC 2006

Just to review the situation for those who aren't familiar with the 
facts that I have described...

My stepson said he was punched in the head, quite hard, by his father.  
This is how his father woke him up at about midnight to discuss his 
anger with the boy's mother for marrying me.

The boy, who is 13, and who doesn't like me much at all, asked his 
mother to ask me to join him in his bedroom and sit on his bed so he 
could describe what happened.  My wife said she could feel a bump on 
the boy's head.  I could not feel a bump, but then I'd never touched 
his head before that evening.

I choose to accept the word of my stepson.  I will always believe my 
kids (and stepkids) until I am forced into not believing them.

Yes, I am cognizant of the father's feelings.  As many of you know, I 
have been through a not dissimilar situation myself.  I have never met 
the kids' father.  I tried once.  Several months before our marriage, I 
did go to the father's house when the kids were with their mother, to 
meet him and talk with him.  For whatever reason, no one answered the 
door.  Maybe no one was home, maybe he and his parents (he lives with 
his parents) didn't want to talk to me.  I don't know.

I haven't gone back to his house since the hitting incident.  I haven't 
discussed everything here that the boy told me, but I believe I have 
reason not to go back to his house.  Say I don't want to escalate the 
conflict if you'd like.

I have not, and will not, say anything bad about their dad to my 
stepkids.  I won't let them say anything bad to my son about his 
mother, either.  If the stepkids want to talk to me, I listen.  It's 
just grossly unfair to the stepkids and their dad for me to say 
anything about him.  I have very strong views on this subject.
tod
response 368 of 563: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:08 UTC 2006

Is the guy an alcoholic or just a midget?  The boy is 13.  It wont be long
before he can kick the old man's butt and then the old man won't have anybody
he can intimidate into being a serogate sympathetic mommy for him.
That's a real toughie situation, jep.  My father never laid a finger on me
but my step dad tried once.  Luckily, gramps (not my dad cuz he's a pacifist)
encouraged my participation in kickboxing so by the time step-dad and I got
into a confrontation (he was choking my mom to death) then I was able to crack
his head open pretty handily.  Its not something I'm proud of and emotionally
it sucked really bad (especially since mom got the cops after me) but at least
I didn't take a beating like my mom.  I'm recommending you get him into some
kind of self defense class just for the sake of self esteem.  People might
frown on that idea but trust me..its not a bad idea when there's an abuser
somewhere in the immediate family.  Meditation and focus from those types of
sports help relieve unseen mental stress which could adversely affect him in
other parts of his life.
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