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keesan
response 343 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 02:38 UTC 2004

What hardware problem might be responsible if we are unable to do Y and have
it print mail from within pine, on two computers?  On a third computer it all
works.  We tried two printers (which worked elsewhere), two cables, two
computers, one with 2 different modems on 2 comports (2 and 3), two of grex'es
phone numbers (3000 and 5041).  The printer works otherwise and will PrtScr
mail.  Is it possible to print (on your home computer) files that are in your
home directory and if so how, short of downloading them first?

These two computers are ones we put together for a friend who likes to print
all the jokes people send her forwarded in email.  

Also when she forwarded mail from grex (pine, f) the attachments arrived as
large strings of 7-bit characters instead of images, tho the receiving mail
program (webmail) identified them at attachments before she tried to read the
mail.  When I sent her mail directly with an attached image that worked (she
saw the image).  

WE are using Kermit.  Once we had a 14.4 bps modem that would not, with
kermit, print from pine.  But we tried 3 modems tonight.  (I did not want to
take apart my computer to try the one that was in it.)
rcurl
response 344 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 06:32 UTC 2004

I print text files from my grex directory wby selecting the text and then
using Print Selection (Apple-P).
keesan
response 345 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 10:32 UTC 2004

Our keyboards don't have any Apple-P key.  I discovered that the problem is
kermit will do prYnt from c:\kermit but not d:\kermit and now we have to talk
her through making a new directory, copying files to it from the old one, and
editing a batch file to change d: to c:.  

Is there a way to print directly with a non-Mac computer from one's home
directory at grex?  I think you can print from lynx directly.
gelinas
response 346 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 11:54 UTC 2004

Are they the same version of kermit?  I'm *really* surprised that kermit
would care which drive it was on for printing.  It seems more likely
that there is a difference in the terminal-support settings.  Pine uses
"attached to ANSI" for its printing.  (I don't use kermit, so I can't
offer suggestions on checking its settings.)

I think lynx uses the same print mechanism Pine uses.  If one works,
the other should.

"Print Selection" is a feature of the terminal software.  I seem to
recall seeing it in ProComm or ProComm Plus.  Again, I don't use kermit,
so I can't comment on its features.
remmers
response 347 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 12:32 UTC 2004

Re #345:  For printing Grex text on your local printer, you might try
the "pcprint" command, e.g.

        pcprint FILENAME            (from a shell prompt)
or     read pass 100 | 'pcprint    (in Picospan, to print an item)

This might or might not work, depending on how your terminal software
is set up.
remmers
response 348 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 12:38 UTC 2004

There is a new vote in progress on a proposal to amend the bylaw
article on member votes.  Voting runs through March 23.  Type  vote
at a shell prompt or  !vote  at any other prompt to read the
proposal and/or cast a ballot.  See item 122 in Coop for discussion.
remmers
response 349 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 13:51 UTC 2004

I should add that since this is a bylaw amendment, at least 75% of
members voting must vote in favor in order for it to pass.
keesan
response 350 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 17:23 UTC 2004

I have identical versions of kermit in c: and d: and the one in c: prints and
that in d: does not.  Three computers will print from c:, three won't from
d:, on four printers, various cables.
keesan
response 351 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 17:51 UTC 2004

My latest linux comes with microcom, a little dialing program smaller than
minicom, which when I try to use it to log into grex, immediately after I give
my login, does Password:  Incorrect password. It appears to be sending some
string which gets interpreted as password, and does not leave me a millisecond
to enter my own password.  When I try this at mnet it dutifully pauses for
me to enter my password, twice.  Other people say it works for them. What
might be happening at grex to cause problems with password giving?
tod
response 352 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 17:52 UTC 2004

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keesan
response 353 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 17:54 UTC 2004

I don't understand the question in #352.  I don't see any strings being
produced before I am told Incorrect password - this appears immediately after
the request for Password:, with no time to enter my password.
tod
response 354 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 18:15 UTC 2004

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salad
response 355 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 19:37 UTC 2004

I prefer 6 bit
keesan
response 356 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 23:09 UTC 2004

I can try this and get back in ten minutes.  This all works properly at mnet
for some reason, just not at grex.  Works for other people elsewhere.
salad
response 357 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 23:26 UTC 2004

Isn't m-net down?
keesan
response 358 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 23:55 UTC 2004

Ctrl-M made no difference.  I wonder if the grex modems are a problem.  I will
try without hardware flow control next.  
atlantic
response 359 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 00:10 UTC 2004

M-Net isn't responding to my calls.  Is this a known problem?  Is
someone working on it?
salad
response 360 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 01:15 UTC 2004

(I was referring to the fact that keesan had said she had tested something
on m-net)
keesan
response 361 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 02:12 UTC 2004

I officially give up on microcom.  I will learn to compile the latest version
of kermit since the precompiled one for SW40 complains about floating points
and the one for SW3.5 does not do FTP, it is too old.  make linux
KFLAGS=-DNOFLOAT after unpacking the source code.  
salad
response 362 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 04:46 UTC 2004

We just rebooted.
tsty
response 363 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 10:57 UTC 2004

and who is 'we'?
  
 % ping -c 3 arbornet.org
PING arbornet.org (209.142.209.161): 56 data bytes

--- arbornet.org ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
gelinas
response 364 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 11:59 UTC 2004

(I think the "we" is grex, which was taken off-line last night, as described
in the motd.)
tsty
response 365 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 18:13 UTC 2004

re 364 ... 363 was ref to 359. 
salad
response 366 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 18:53 UTC 2004

Thanks kip and gelinas !
twenex
response 367 of 384: Mark Unseen   Mar 19 13:10 UTC 2004

Hmm.

Has ttyp0 been fixed? it seems to be working properly.

Contrast this with testerday, when in an effort not to get a borken terminak
I opened several tty sessions simultaneously, intending to close the ones down
htat complained "server refused to allocate pty" once I got a working one.
It took me four goes before I got one I could type into.
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