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veek
response 34 of 49: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 09:35 UTC 2010

i didn't say that the general public could post to staff; just that 
they have read access to it.
tsty
response 35 of 49: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 16:49 UTC 2010

  
that would onmly be    bait    for the chaffers.
  
cross
response 36 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 04:13 UTC 2010

resp:33 That's NOT your decision to make.  You don't get to unilaterally
say, "staff.cf stays restricted."  You get to have an opinion like everyone
else.

Let's be honest: staff has been a social club prior to.  Show me a single
example of this "chaffing" you are referring to in, e.g., garage and I'll give
your opinion its due merit.  But the discussons in staff are hardly serious,
if they happen at all.  If anything, opening it up would provide more folks
the opportunity to see waht's going on and provide helpful suggestions, since
almost no one posts to staff.
tsty
response 37 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 07:15 UTC 2010

  
uhhh, i thoght i ws makieng an opinon statement ... easy there pard.
  
i know you know decisionas are a grop effort (panics exdcepted). 
  
as for garage, not in tehre much ... however coop and agora are reasonble
chaff exhimbts in certan, not all, items. 
  
of course if yo eally wanna see chaff ... try teh b0x across the street.
  
tonster
response 38 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 13:20 UTC 2010

it came off to me as a final decision you'd made as well.  it didn't
sound like an opinion.
tsty
response 39 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 04:44 UTC 2010

  
well, it was a final decision that -i- made for -me-, certainly not for hte
system.
scholar
response 40 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 06:09 UTC 2010

remmers
response 41 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 16:39 UTC 2010

The term "staff conference" is perhaps something of a misnomer,
since board members also have access.

Regarding opening it up:  There was a policy passed by member vote
a few years ago that bears on this.  It's currently offline due to
the recent disk disaster, so I can't look it up, but I think the
gist of it was that all conferences on Grex shall be open, with an
explicit exception made for the staff conference.  If so, opening
the conference would involve undoing something adopted by a vote
of the members.

You know, if it were up to me, I'd abandon the staff conference
entirely, as it's kind of a hodgepodge of stuff that serves a
variety of purposes that I think are better served in separate
venues.  Staff discussions of matters that should be private,
like security, should go on a mailing list.  Policy discussions
should be open and take place in Coop.  Discussions of hardware
and software (e.g. what OS to run) should be open and happen in
Garage.  How-to's (like, how to do backups, or how to check
changes into a version control system) should be in medium that
supports editing and looking stuff up, like a wiki, that's
editable by staff members and readable by all.
kentn
response 42 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 17:37 UTC 2010

Actually, I'm a board member and don't have access, so I don't
think all board members do.  
kentn
response 43 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 17:45 UTC 2010

Ok: j staff
Cannot join conference staff.
Conference 'staff' not accessible
jgelinas
response 44 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 20:10 UTC 2010

One of the fair witnesses needs to update the user list for the staff
conference.  Some day, I may be able to get back onto grex in a way that
will let me update the user list.  I hope.
kentn
response 45 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 21:03 UTC 2010

Okay, thanks, Joe.
cross
response 46 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 03:05 UTC 2010

Whoops.  What is the current list of board members?  I'll make sure everyone
has the appropriate access.
denise
response 47 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 14:18 UTC 2010

The board includes: 
-cross
-kentn
-gelinas
-steve
-unicorn
-tsty
-denise
mdw
response 48 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 11 21:40 UTC 2010

mdw
response 49 of 49: Mark Unseen   Mar 11 21:47 UTC 2010

(ignore that -- a typing habit didn't do the expected.)
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