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cross
response 33 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 04:07 UTC 2010

I agree with resp:32.  Why are we putting dollar amounts in the bylaws?
jgelinas
response 34 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 19:57 UTC 2010

Because they are already there.  The purpose of this proposal is to
modify the amounts.  I've set up a different item for discussion of how
to modify the dues structure in the future.
jgelinas
response 35 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 23:56 UTC 2010

I do hope this proposal gets an endorsement or two in the next day. 
denise
response 36 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 02:14 UTC 2010

In skimming through this item, it looks like Mary endorsed this in 
resp:18; I'll endorse it, too.
kentn
response 37 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 03:26 UTC 2010

There have been several proposals or possible changes to proposals, so
just to be clear, which one are we trying to endorse at this point?
jgelinas
response 38 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 12:21 UTC 2010

Response 30:

The text of my proposal is:

MOTION: That Article 6, "Dues", section a, be amended to read,
"Membership dues are $18.00 per year, or $2.00 per month."  Further,
that this amendment be effective retroactively to September 27, 2010;
any payment received by the Treasurer on or after that date shall be
credited at the new dues rate.
cross
response 39 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 14:23 UTC 2010

I don't support this.  How about this instead:

MOTION: That Article 6, "Dues", section A, be amended to read,
"Membership dues are set at the discretion of the board of 
directors."  Further, that this amendment be effective retroactively 
to September 27, 2010; any payment received by the Treasureer on or 
after that date shall be credited at a rate set by the Board of 
Directors at the next board meeting.
kentn
response 40 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 17:27 UTC 2010

That one (#39) is definitely easier, Dan.  I'd support that.
rcurl
response 41 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 19:40 UTC 2010

I'd support Dan's motion too. But suggest it be simplified to:

"Membership dues are set by the board of directors."

It doesn't mean anything definite for the board to exercise discretion 
(although discretion is a good quality to exercise).
cross
response 42 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 08:35 UTC 2010

resp:41 I'm down with that.
jgelinas
response 43 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 13:48 UTC 2010

But this is not the item for that proposal.  See item 287.
jgelinas
response 44 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 17:41 UTC 2010

OK, so the proposal had two endorsements within 48 hours of the final
text being posted.  Mr. Treasurer, Sir, is "two" ten percent of the
current membership, allowing this to proceed to a vote?
cross
response 45 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 04:45 UTC 2010

I think this 10% endorsement for a vote thing needs to go away.  That 
was enacted in the wake of the popcorn incident, in order to prevent 
jp2 from filing motion after motion to get the membership to force 
staff's hand in restoring the deleted items.  However, that seems 
distinctly less relevant now that Grex has only a handful of members.
kentn
response 46 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 12:01 UTC 2010

With only a handful of members, meeting the 10% requirement is even
easier (e.g. with 6 members, one person is all it takes). I doubt it
would prevent anyone from proposing a lot of changes (all you need are
a couple friends to be members and away you go).  It will become more
difficult if we can increase the membership significantly.
remmers
response 47 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 12:45 UTC 2010

I've started the voting on this proposal.  It runs through October 28.
Voting booth:  https://grex.org/cgi-bin/pw/voting-booth
tsty
response 48 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 29 06:58 UTC 2010

  
re 44 .. as of midnight last niht .. close of polls, total membershikp
is    10 [ten] ... so 1 [one] woudl do it at the 10% level.
  
rcurl
response 49 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 29 21:25 UTC 2010

First time my vote has ever had such individual power! Did all the board 
members rejoin? I'd say that if any didn't, they can't vote at a Board 
meeting.
kentn
response 50 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 29 23:39 UTC 2010

I see 6 of 7 Board members are members of Grex.  One has said he would
pay, but maybe has forgotten.
veek
response 51 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 30 13:49 UTC 2010

Re #25: Grex on a laptop. spam - whitelist. Bsdtalk held an interview 
with SDF, pretty soon he'll be on the Wiki - bunch of posers *sigh* 
anyway..
remmers
response 52 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 31 15:04 UTC 2010

Nine eligible members voted.  9 yes, 0 no.  The proposal PASSES.
jgelinas
response 53 of 56: Mark Unseen   Oct 31 15:40 UTC 2010

Were there any other votes cast, John?
tsty
response 54 of 56: Mark Unseen   Nov 1 15:59 UTC 2010

  
good question ...  all votes are to be reported, onmly some count for 
pass/fail. 
  
remmers
response 55 of 56: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 19:29 UTC 2010

In addition to the official votes reported above, six non-members
voted:  4 yes, 2 no.
tsty
response 56 of 56: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 06:39 UTC 2010

  
tnx much .. goo djob.
  
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