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Grex > Helpers > #138: Grex System Problems - Winter 2004/2005 |  |
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gull
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response 324 of 870:
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Jan 10 14:40 UTC 2005 |
Re resp:316: I know a fair number of sites that use SFTP exclusively, to
get around the problems of FTP -- mostly, its insecurity, and its
inability to play nice with firewalls.
FTP is still used for anonymous file access sites because SFTP doesn't
make any sense in that situation. That usage seems to be slowly
disappearing in favor of HTTP, though.
You're correct that SFTP doesn't resembly FTP much, protocol-wise. It's
really an extension of SSH. It is, however, a File Transfer Protocol. ;)
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remmers
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response 325 of 870:
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Jan 10 15:29 UTC 2005 |
And client user interfaces are usually designed to make it "look like"
ftp.
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gull
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response 326 of 870:
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Jan 10 15:47 UTC 2005 |
Yes, if you're used to using FTP graphically. If you're used to using
FTP on the command line, you're going to notice differences.
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remmers
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response 327 of 870:
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Jan 10 15:55 UTC 2005 |
I was actually thinking of command line interfaces. But we digress.
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keesan
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response 328 of 870:
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Jan 10 16:12 UTC 2005 |
Regarding using ftp instead of lynx to fetch files from ftp sites, that is
like putting down your spoon and going off to look for a knife. I am already
using lynx to find the file I need and it would be simpler, rather than
writing down the full pathname and filename and exiting lynx and then typing
it all into ftp (or even using 'screen' and copying it that way) to simply
fetch the file with lynx, or links. Links is even set up to let you download
a file while continuing to browse so no need to use 'screen'. In this case
I was trying to find a small DOS program for the Bulgarian neighbor to use
to type in Cyrillic and I found a few but they were at ftp sites (file
archives).
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keesan
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response 329 of 870:
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Jan 10 16:49 UTC 2005 |
zerofill is running multiple copies of vvopenbsd since 11:11 using up all the
cpu time.
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rcurl
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response 330 of 870:
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Jan 10 16:51 UTC 2005 |
I haven't noticed any difference using sftp rather than ftp - but then, I'm
just using things like ls, rm, put, and get.
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keesan
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response 331 of 870:
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Jan 10 17:23 UTC 2005 |
Thanks to whoever just fixed the vandal! Load average down from 60 to 0.0.
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remmers
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response 332 of 870:
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Jan 10 17:34 UTC 2005 |
<remmers bows>
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cross
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response 333 of 870:
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Jan 10 18:15 UTC 2005 |
This response has been erased.
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rcurl
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response 334 of 870:
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Jan 10 20:15 UTC 2005 |
I connected via ssh a few minutes ago and got a garbled mess following
entering my password. I'm dialed in now, although I also got that garble
on my first dialin attempt. It seems to be working OK now.
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dpc
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response 335 of 870:
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Jan 10 21:48 UTC 2005 |
I'm experiencng a *huge* spam problem. After beingoff the system
for 3 days, I had over 300 e-mails waiting! I never had this
many with Old Grex.
Can someone move over whateever bilderfilter
OldGrex was using? The present situation really cannot continue.
Mail is virtually useless to me know.
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gelinas
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response 336 of 870:
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Jan 11 00:59 UTC 2005 |
Re 322: Which problem is that, twenex?
Re 334: That's a problem of not getting a tty. I don't know why it happens,
but I've had it happen a couple or three times.
Re 335: No, the mail-filters that were in use on the old machine cannot be
moved over. We have to recreate them.
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twenex
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response 337 of 870:
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Jan 11 01:08 UTC 2005 |
Backtalk refuses to recognize that I've read some responses in agora. It
always comes up with "X new respondes, 0 read" where X = the total number of
items.
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mfp
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response 338 of 870:
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Jan 11 02:20 UTC 2005 |
http://www.xnewrespondesforjesus.org/
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keesan
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response 339 of 870:
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Jan 11 03:04 UTC 2005 |
Anyone who wants is welcome to copy over my .forward and .procmailrc, change
keesan to their own login, delete all lines starting with # and replace my
(now very short) white list (sections ending in $MAIL other than the one at
the very end) with the addresses of friends they know will be sending them
mail, and be prepared to check the log every day and write anyone you missed
whose mail got thrown out. Eventually everyone will be on your white list.
I just deleted my white list and am rebuilding it but fixed one problem with
the filter that was throwing out all mail from AOL because it filtered on
0pt (as in 0pt 0ut but also 10pt, found in a lot of HTML).
I am now getting only about 3-5 spams/day and losing a couple of real mails
- just put the sender on your white list and ask them to mail again - the log
file shows you who wrote. I zap about 40 spams a day.
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dpc
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response 340 of 870:
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Jan 11 15:52 UTC 2005 |
So - how soon can we re-create the mail filters that were used on
OldGrex?
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gelinas
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response 341 of 870:
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Jan 11 16:29 UTC 2005 |
I'll try to take a look at them this evening.
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keesan
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response 342 of 870:
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Jan 11 17:49 UTC 2005 |
Thanks, Joe. Today my spam filter threw out mail from two of four friends
and one of the other two was on my white list. I have added too much to it
in a hurry. I would appreciate suggestions on how to fix it:
/a/k/e/keesan/.procmailrc. (Ignore any lines with # - the old whitelist).
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keesan
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response 343 of 870:
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Jan 11 19:54 UTC 2005 |
I just discovered that non-spam can contain 3Dhttp when a helpful friend who
uses AOL sent me a mail with that in it. (She has been saving her mails and
resends them so I can run them through my filter after putting her on the
white list). What does this do? I removed a few other 3D filters too.
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keesan
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response 344 of 870:
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Jan 11 20:17 UTC 2005 |
I tried to fetch an ftp file with wget: failed.. No route to host.
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mcnally
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response 345 of 870:
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Jan 11 20:46 UTC 2005 |
Which sounds like a problem which wouldn't be limited to wget.
If you try to ping the same host do you get a similar error or does
ping succeed?
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keesan
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response 346 of 870:
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Jan 11 20:55 UTC 2005 |
ping command not found
I was looking for alternate ways to fetch ftp files since lynx ftp and links
ftp are not working yet here. I was able to use straight ftp at this site
(simtel) but not: lynx, links, wget.
Just now I tried to look at my energy bill www.mydteenergy.com with links,
which works for this purpose (well, part of it works, I can at least sign in
and look at one of my two bills) at sdf, but at grex 'no route to host'.
Gelinas tried to fix this problem during beta testing but I don't think
succeeded.
Yes I am a grex paying member with ftp out privileges.
I probably typed it correctly because substituting ftp for wget and removing
the file name worked to get me into the correct directory.
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keesan
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response 347 of 870:
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Jan 11 21:01 UTC 2005 |
Progress on making a better spam filter. An AOL-using friend helped me to
determine that non-spam AOL mails can contain, without the sender's knowledge,
3dhttp <td (as in tables) and 'click on', none of which were visible to me.
It might be simplest to just put all people I know using AOL on the whitelist
since they can't figure out how not to send HTML.
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mooncat
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response 348 of 870:
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Jan 11 21:04 UTC 2005 |
(birthday wisher broken?)
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