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25 new of 870 responses total.
gelinas
response 321 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 13:28 UTC 2005

When I tried "read since 1/9/2005", it gave the error Dave reports but took
me to the beginning of item 1.  When I tried "read since jan 9 2005", it
took me first to item 9 and then item 1.

I suppose we should read the ft help.
twenex
response 322 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 14:27 UTC 2005

Re: #314. Those models are still around, they have their uses.

Any movement on the problem I've reported twice yet?
petercon
response 323 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 14:39 UTC 2005

resp:298 Thanks - mc works great!
gull
response 324 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 14:40 UTC 2005

Re resp:316: I know a fair number of sites that use SFTP exclusively, to
get around the problems of FTP -- mostly, its insecurity, and its
inability to play nice with firewalls.

FTP is still used for anonymous file access sites because SFTP doesn't
make any sense in that situation.  That usage seems to be slowly
disappearing in favor of HTTP, though.

You're correct that SFTP doesn't resembly FTP much, protocol-wise.  It's
really an extension of SSH.  It is, however, a File Transfer Protocol. ;)
remmers
response 325 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 15:29 UTC 2005

And client user interfaces are usually designed to make it "look like"
ftp.
gull
response 326 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 15:47 UTC 2005

Yes, if you're used to using FTP graphically.  If you're used to using
FTP on the command line, you're going to notice differences.
remmers
response 327 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 15:55 UTC 2005

I was actually thinking of command line interfaces.  But we digress.
keesan
response 328 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 16:12 UTC 2005

Regarding using ftp instead of lynx to fetch files from ftp sites, that is
like putting down your spoon and going off to look for a knife.  I am already
using lynx to find the file I need and it would be simpler, rather than
writing down the full pathname and filename and exiting lynx and then typing
it all into ftp (or even using 'screen' and copying it that way) to simply
fetch the file with lynx, or links.  Links is even set up to let you download
a file while continuing to browse so no need to use 'screen'.  In this case
I was trying to find a small DOS program for the Bulgarian neighbor to use
to type in Cyrillic and I found a few but they were at ftp sites (file
archives).  
keesan
response 329 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 16:49 UTC 2005

zerofill is running multiple copies of vvopenbsd since 11:11 using up all the
cpu time.
rcurl
response 330 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 16:51 UTC 2005

I haven't noticed any difference using sftp rather than ftp -  but then, I'm
just using things like ls, rm, put, and get. 
keesan
response 331 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 17:23 UTC 2005

Thanks to whoever just fixed the vandal!  Load average down from 60 to 0.0.
remmers
response 332 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 17:34 UTC 2005

<remmers bows>
cross
response 333 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 18:15 UTC 2005

This response has been erased.

rcurl
response 334 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 20:15 UTC 2005

I connected via ssh a few minutes ago and got a garbled mess following
entering my password. I'm dialed in now, although I also got that garble
on my first dialin attempt. It seems to be working OK now. 
dpc
response 335 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 21:48 UTC 2005

I'm experiencng a *huge* spam problem.  After beingoff the system
for 3 days, I had over 300 e-mails waiting!  I never had this
many with Old Grex.

Can someone move over whateever bilderfilter
OldGrex was using?  The present situation really cannot continue.
Mail is virtually useless to me know.
gelinas
response 336 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 00:59 UTC 2005

Re 322:  Which problem is that, twenex?

Re 334:  That's a problem of not getting a tty.  I don't know why it happens,
but I've had it happen a couple or three times.

Re 335:  No, the mail-filters that were in use on the old machine cannot be
moved over.  We have to recreate them.
twenex
response 337 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 01:08 UTC 2005

Backtalk refuses to recognize that I've read some responses in agora. It
always comes up with "X new respondes, 0 read" where X = the total number of
items.
mfp
response 338 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 02:20 UTC 2005

http://www.xnewrespondesforjesus.org/
keesan
response 339 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 03:04 UTC 2005

Anyone who wants is welcome to copy over my .forward and .procmailrc, change
keesan to their own login, delete all lines starting with # and replace my
(now very short) white list (sections ending in $MAIL other than the one at
the very end) with the addresses of friends they know will be sending them
mail, and be prepared to check the log every day and write anyone you missed
whose mail got thrown out.  Eventually everyone will be on your white list.
I just deleted my white list and am rebuilding it but fixed one problem with
the filter that was throwing out all mail from AOL because it filtered on 
0pt (as in 0pt 0ut but also 10pt, found in a lot of HTML).  
I am now getting only about 3-5 spams/day and losing a couple of real mails
- just put the sender on your white list and ask them to mail again - the log
file shows you who wrote.  I zap about 40 spams a day.  
dpc
response 340 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 15:52 UTC 2005

So - how soon can we re-create the mail filters that were used on
OldGrex?
gelinas
response 341 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 16:29 UTC 2005

I'll try to take a look at them this evening.
keesan
response 342 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 17:49 UTC 2005

Thanks, Joe.  Today my spam filter threw out mail from two of four friends
and one of the other two was on my white list.  I have added too much to it
in a hurry.  I would appreciate suggestions on how to fix it: 
/a/k/e/keesan/.procmailrc.   (Ignore any lines with # - the old whitelist).
keesan
response 343 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 19:54 UTC 2005

I just discovered that non-spam can contain 3Dhttp when a helpful friend who
uses AOL sent me a mail with that in it.  (She has been saving her mails and
resends them so I can run them through my filter after putting her on the
white list).  What does this do?  I removed a few other 3D filters too.  
keesan
response 344 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 20:17 UTC 2005

I tried to fetch an ftp file with wget:   failed.. No route to host.
mcnally
response 345 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 20:46 UTC 2005

 Which sounds like a problem which wouldn't be limited to wget.
 If you try to ping the same host do you get a similar error or does
 ping succeed?
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