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aruba
response 31 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 23:58 UTC 2002

Thanks Ken.
gull
response 32 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 14:01 UTC 2002

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23736.html

Summary:  Philips is continuing to insist that CDs using the current 
copy protection schemes can't bear the official Compact Disc logo.  
(Though since the logo is usually inside, on the disc, this still might 
not provide a good way to identify them before buying.)  Philips' 
general manager has also said that the company will be building CD 
burners that can read and burn copies of the copy-protected CDs.  He 
argues this won't be illegal under the DMCA because the "copy-
protection" scheme isn't a protection system, it's a method of 
preventing the playback of music.

It should be a very interesting legal battle if they actually go 
through with this.
krj
response 33 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 18:07 UTC 2002

More on the classical music crash from andante.com:
 
http://www.andante.com/magazine/article.cfm?id=15643
 
From 1999 to 2001, the classical music CD business lost 20%
of its sales in the USA.   USA sales lag far below Europe;
classical is down to about 1.8% of the market in the US, but 
8% (and on an upward trend) in Britain, 7% in France (but trending
downwards from 10% earlier in the decade), 11% and rising in the 
Netherlands.
 
Harmonia Mundi, one of the classical independent label/distributors 
hit hard by financial troubles at Tower Records, has responded 
by slashing the number of CD titles they distribute in half.
To take the optimistic view, they should now be a stronger 
company.
other
response 34 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 18:30 UTC 2002

The CD logo often appears on the back of liner notes inserts or on the 
back of the CD package, but not consistently enough to be able to tell 
anything by it.

What does the logo signify?  Compliance with the red book encoding 
standard?
gull
response 35 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 19:07 UTC 2002

Specifically, it indicates the CD is licensed by Philips, which holds 
the CD-DA patents (at least for another year or two.)  I think 
complying with the red book standard is part of the rules for making a 
licensed CD.
tpryan
response 36 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 23:29 UTC 2002

re 33:  Must be all those classical fans downloading on the internet!
krj
response 37 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 22 14:43 UTC 2002

resp:29 ::  Slashdot collects/points to a bunch of stuff about Kazaa.
It appears the operation has been sold to a company in Australia which 
intends to charge for its use; however, there are also rumors that 
the company buying Kazaa can't be found in directories of Australian
firms.   The Kazaa file trading client is once again available for 
download, the articles say.
 
Weird.
 
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/01/21/1621223.shtml
krj
response 38 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 04:38 UTC 2002

mp3newswire.net assembles a coherent story about the Kazaa purchase,
though I'm still not sure I grasp what is going on.  Australia is 
developing a reputation as one of the least Internet-friendly
nations so it seems a poor choice to host a file-trading operation.
 
http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2002/kazaasold.html
 
-----
 
mp3.com/news points to a Houston Chronicle essay from early 
this month:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/tech/weekly/1208692

On the disconnect between consumers and the music business, 
heavily redacted:
 
> Here's the point that the music industry just can't seem to
> comprehend: Consumers will not flock to any pay service that
> constrains what they do with the music they download... 
> 
> The industry talks about "educating" consumers about intellectual
> property rights and the fact that artists and license holders need to
> be compensated for their work....
> 
> But consumers are also resistant to the notion that art is something
> they've "licensed," like software, even though legally that's the
> case. Instead, their mindset is this: "Hey, I paid for this music. It's
> mine now. If I want to save some songs to my hard drive, burn a
> compilation CD, listen to them in an MP3 player, I should be able
> to." 

mcnally
response 39 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 05:10 UTC 2002

  If only there was some sort of Pulitzer Prize for stating the obvious..
gull
response 40 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 14:13 UTC 2002

I think a lot of people feel that way about software, too.  I know to 
me it seems distinctly unfair that if I buy a machine with a pre-
installed copy of Windows, I can't later sell it with that same copy of 
Windows installed.
mcnally
response 41 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 18:52 UTC 2002

  an issue which is made only more confusing by the fact that if you
  buy a boxed copy of Windows, you *can* transfer the license with the
  machine.
krj
response 42 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 15:58 UTC 2002

Napster news, widely reported:  Trial court judge Marilyn Patel agreed
to a 30-day delay in issuing her ruling on the labels' request for a 
summary judgement against Napster.  It is believed the labels and Napster
are close to a settlement which would clear the way for the for-pay 
Napster model to open for business.
jmsaul
response 43 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 17:44 UTC 2002

(But won't get them customers.)
krj
response 44 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 18:14 UTC 2002

The NYTimes reports further:  the Register had some of this but 
frankly it sounded like wishful thinking in their article so I didn't
include it in the earlier response.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/24/technology/ebusiness/24NAPS.html

> Several people close to the case said, 
> however, that the record companies' real
> motivation in asking for a suspension was 
> that Judge Patel had threatened to
> issue an order that would have hurt their 
> own case. Specifically, these people
> said, Judge Patel may have been planning 
> to look more closely at whether the
> labels had negotiated in good faith in 
> their licensing discussions with Napster.
krj
response 45 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 19:18 UTC 2002

resp:42 and subsequently :: lots of stories are breaking about the release
of the hearing transcripts from January 16 in the Napster case, and some 
of the press coverage is getting more and more breathless.  
I'll just cite this one, from the "Newsbytes" imprint of The Washington Post:
 
http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/174154.html
"Napster Case: Is Judge Turning Tables on Labels?"
 
Quotes:   

>  A judge's decision allowing Napster to pursue copyright misuse claims
>  against major record labels seems to signal a sea change in the music
>  industry's lawsuit against the peer-to-peer song-swapping service,
>  according to a trio of legal experts. 
...

>  If she were to rule that labels have
>  misused their rights, one expert told
>  Newsbytes, at the extreme it could mean
>  the labels could not enforce their
>  copyrights. Such a decision, conceivably,
>  could kill the labels' case against Napster ...

>  The 10 pages of transcript following Patel's statement about copyright
>  misuse remain under seal by order of the judge, so any discussion that 
>  followed Patel's statement remains secret.  But what is present in the 
>  document was described by one lawyer as "a bombshell."

----------

IANAL, but I went Googling in search of the terms "copyright misuse."
This seems to be a fairly specific legal term specifying a defense
against copyright infringement, in a situation where the copyright holder
has used copyright licenses to enforce unfair or illegal trade practices.
The case law I found, from early 1990s, involved a software firm which forced
its customers to sign a 99-year non-compete agreement before it would license
the software to them.  It's unclear to me if a finding of "copyright misuse"
merely ends the litigation in question in favor of the accused infringer, or 
if it terminates the copyright.  
 
The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/23906.html) laments
that Napster seems to have neither the resources nor the inclination to pursue
this lead much farther, possibly leading to the smashing of the major record
companies.  I tend to agree; Napster is now controlled by Bertelsmann, one of
the  major music companies, and so it would not want to endanger the record
company  copyrights.  My guess is that Napster is likely to just use its
leverage to  wipe the slate clean on anything it might have owed on past
infringements, and to get the licenses it wants to launch the new for-pay
Napster.

However, an analyst in the Newsbytes piece points out that the copyright 
misuse issue will be lying around waiting for use by the other P2P file sharing
operations which the music industry either is suing, or plans to sue.
twill
response 46 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 00:03 UTC 2002

Hi, I'm Twill!
krj
response 47 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 04:14 UTC 2002

Here's an odd story.  CD sales went down globally in 2001, but in the 
UK and France they are up.  UK sales up 5%, French sales up 12%.
Go figure.
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/music/newsid_1814000/1814160
.stm
krj
response 48 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 23:09 UTC 2002

Wired pointed to this think piece from MIT's Technology Review:
 
http://www.techreview.com/articles/shulman0302.asp
on "Intellectual Property Ecology."
 
The argument is that the current shifts towards giving all rights to the 
IP owners and none to the public is likely to have bad effects on 
future creativity.   Those clashing against the current trends are 
starting to apply an ecological metaphor in their organizing attempts.
mcnally
response 49 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 23:41 UTC 2002

  And we all know how successful ecologists have been at influencing 
  public policy..
jmsaul
response 50 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 19 00:11 UTC 2002

From context, that's obviously intended as sarcasm, but ecologists actually
*have* influenced public policy in the US and Europe a hell of a lot in the
last 30-some years.
mcnally
response 51 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 19 01:03 UTC 2002

  I know..  But I'm not particuarly hopeful for the effort Ken alludes to.
  I'd argue that ecologists have largely been successful because they've
  managed to convince a large enough segment of the populace, not because
  they've influenced legislators directly.  However, it's a complicated
  issue and I have no desire to hijack the Napster item..
jmsaul
response 52 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 19 02:57 UTC 2002

Agreed on both counts.
mcnally
response 53 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 19 07:59 UTC 2002

  Returning to Napsterish news..  An article in today's New York Times
  http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/18/technology/18SONG.html blasts the
  music labels' official subscription download plans for not fairly
  compensating artists.  According to the article, subscription plans such
  as PressPlay and MusicNet, which have been pushed by the music industry
  as a way to make sure that artists are fairly compensated for their work,
  apparently improve upon Napster's $0.0000/download by offering artists
  a whopping $0.0023/download..  So if you're paying PressPlay $19.99/month
  for their "Gold Plan" service, which allows up to 75 downloaded songs,
  as much as $0.1725 of that $20 *may* be going directly to the artists. 
  Care to guess where the rest goes?

  Anyway, artists are predictably up in arms about the compensation and
  several have demanded that their work be withdrawn from the subscription
  services.

  Favorite bits from the article:

  (1)    "Representatives of the five major record labels would not talk on
          the record about the payment system or their rights to use the
          music. But in comments not for attribution, several executives
          at labels and their subscription services did not dispute the
          accusations regarding the payment plan. They said their first
          priority was to make the services attractive to consumers and
          that the details of compensation could be worked out afterward."

       Oh yeah..  I'm sure the record labels can be trusted to work out
       equitable compensation arrangements "afterward."

  (2)  Quote regarding a statement from Rand Hoffman, head of business
       operations for several labels on Universal:
       
         "[Hoffman] added that it was 'beyond logic' that artists would
          choose to leave their music off Pressplay and 'effectively
          encourage the use of illegal services.'"

       Gosh yeah.  Everyone hates getting screwed over *illegally*.
       Having it happen legally is no doubt much better..
krj
response 54 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 19 21:37 UTC 2002

Thanks, Mike, I'd missed this story.  It's putting a big smile on my 
face, it is...  Some of my favorite bits:
 
There's a long-ish discussion of the differences between licensing 
arrangement and royalty arrangements; artists get less money in a 
royalty arrangement, and of course that's what the labels have 
chosen to use here, and it's defensible.  But then:  "But, out of that, 
35 to 45 percent is deducted for standard CD expenses like packaging
and promotional copies -- expenses that obviously don't exist in 
the online world."    Yup, the labels are billing the artists for 
CD packaging costs for songs delivered online.
 
And...   "For many acts, suddenly there appears to be little difference
between the illicit file-sharing system and record-label services.
The arguments the labels are using, said Jill Berliner, a leading music
lawyer, are exactly the ones Napster made.  'And, from our perspective,
if the technology is going to be out there and the artist isn't
really going to make money, we'd prefer that our fans just get it for 
free,' she said."
krj
response 55 of 219: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 00:04 UTC 2002

The US Supreme Court has agreed to hear a challenge to the Sonny Bono 
Copyright Extension Act, which extended all copyrights for another 20 
years, and which put quite a few public domain works back under 
copyright.  The NY Times story is at:
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/19/national/19CND-RIGHTS.html

Slashdot points to a legal-oriented site backing the challenge to 
the law:
 
http://eon.law.harvard.edu/openlaw/eldredvreno/
 
At the risk of oversimplifying, the argument is that Congress is going 
against the clear language of the Constitution's copyright clause, which
calls for copyrights to have limited terms, when it continually lengthens
the terms of copyright.
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