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clees
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response 31 of 64:
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Sep 10 06:17 UTC 1998 |
When I was in Ann Arbor I visited Schoolkids in order to buy some
alleged 'famous cheap' cd's. That point was a disappointment: cd's in
the US aren't that cheap anymore compared to the Netherlands. I had been
told that Tower was a sound alternative, but with tempratures rising up
to 96 I walked right past it, sweating and sweating. Around the corner
at the end of Liberty (some 100 ft from the cinema across the street) I
finally found a small shop that has a fair good collection in
alternative music, since Schoolkids didn't have the titles I desired.
The shop doesn't look all that savoury, the people serving certainly
live up to their status of being alternative and seperate from the rest
of the world (i.o.w.: rude and obnoxious), but I bought Reload by
Metallica and Mezzanine by Massive Attack. When Schoolkids dies, you
might check that shop out. Don't ask me for its name however.
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scott
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response 32 of 64:
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Sep 10 10:43 UTC 1998 |
That would be Discount Records, I think. It tends to have "the hits" only,
but at decent prices. The staff varies in personality.
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anderyn
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response 33 of 64:
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Sep 10 13:23 UTC 1998 |
Actually, I go in there quite a bit, if I want something "popular".
Their prices are good, and *grin* they never seem rude to me, even if
I am a middle-aged Mom type that must give their pierced little brains
a twinge of misery by reminding them of the middle-class respectable
(why is it I can't spell French words. Arrgh.) bourgeous folk that
many of them must be rebelling against.
I have always been happy with the service at Discount Records and
with what I've found there.
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anderyn
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response 34 of 64:
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Sep 10 13:29 UTC 1998 |
Oh, and I never knew that S'kids carried 'Fameous cheap' recordings.
As far as I'm aware, Clees, it was good for getting in things that
were obscure and unlikely to be found at a mall-type record store, and
for charging obscene prices for same. (Not that I minded, too much,
since it's better to pay $18 for a British recording at S'kids than
$18 at a mall shop for something I could find at Best Buy for $12...)
If it was something that Borders might carry, I'd usually wait to see if
it turned up there (like anything remotely popular), but if it was at
all unlikely, S'kids would have it. (E.g., where am I going to find
a source of James Keelaghan recordings now? Or Garnet Rogers? Or,
Horslips? Or Old Blind Dogs? Or Great Big Sea? Or any of a thousand
wonderful bands/performers who aren't signed to a label that can
distribute them in the States?)
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maeve
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response 35 of 64:
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Sep 10 15:06 UTC 1998 |
(you convince me to send them to you if ever I can...but I charge obscene
amounts f comission ;)
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tpryan
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response 36 of 64:
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Sep 10 16:25 UTC 1998 |
re 34: Try the selection at Borders.com. Our on-line ordering
has been open for awhile, but expect a Grand Opening next week, when
you all will probably hear more about it. Instead of one copy of
Keelaghan at 225 stores, five copies sitting in the on-line order
fullfillment center provides service without overstocking stores.
Actually, I would hope a name like Keelaghan would be in the Borders
folk racks.
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krj
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response 37 of 64:
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Sep 10 17:28 UTC 1998 |
Borders.com shows:
2 James Keelaghan discs -- I don't know his catalog to know how good that
is. "A Recent Future" and "My Skies."
0 solo albums by Garnet Rogers, just two collaboration/anthology discs
1 album by Horslips -- a "greatest hits." None of the catalog albums.
1 disc by Old Blind Dogs, "Legacy." They have five in print.
1 disc by Great Big Sea -- their US compilation release. But not
the original Canadian issues.
That's the online store's stock for the artists Twila mentioned.
One more:
1 Runrig album, "Mara," their only current USA release. None of the
dozen or so British imports.
What this tells me is that Borders.com is not in the folk import CD
business.
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anderyn
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response 38 of 64:
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Sep 10 18:43 UTC 1998 |
'Zactly. The two Keelaghan are his two on Green Linnet, which put him
out for a while (dunno if they still are, but he *said* at his last
concert that he'd have one out this fall, yes yes yes) -- he's got
five in total. And Garnet Rogers is totally self-produced/distributed,
although I could always find him at S'kids. Now, yes, I *can* do a
lot of mail-order, and a lot of waiting for gigs so I can get the
albums, but I really liked being able to call up S'kids and have
something held for me (oh God, what I am I going to do about the
Oysterband?! Or Dougie MacLean -- who did finally have his latest disc
show up at Borders about a year and a half after I just ordered it
straight from his website...)
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janc
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response 39 of 64:
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Sep 11 22:26 UTC 1998 |
Sigh. In the mid-eighties, I lived in Tower Plaza, and half my life
centered around three near-by institutions: Borders Books, Schoolkids
Records, and the Michigan Theater. I could get the best in books, music
and movies, in local stores with amazingly knowledgable staff people,
and I could get it all within a block of my front door. I loved it.
Borders died years ago, slowly fading away into just another book mall.
Nothing of what once made it special survives today, except for a large
stock. Used to be each section was obviously maintained by people who
knew the genre. The books that mattered were the books that were given
prominent display, and if you asked questions, it was clear that people
actually had read many of the books. Those people have mostly vanished
with the culture that welcomed them. Who needs an intelligent person
shelving books when the publisher's publicity campaigns determine what
goes where?
To loose Schoolkids too is awfully depressing. I was pissed when
Borders reorganized and added the music department. Borders was still a
perfectly good book store then, but why would undercutting Schoolkids
make them better? What's wrong with having a perfectly good bookstore
across from a perfectly good record store? I think it was a decision
dictated by some corporate management far from Ann Arbor that had no
interest in the health of Ann Arbor's retail community. So they built
an average record store and killed a great one, while letting their
great bookstore lapse into averageness. Fooey. Sure, Schoolkid's
quality has been lapsing a lot over the last year, but plainly they were
facing financial problems. Sure, in the best of all worlds, the people
who knew how to put together a brilliant record store would also have
the business sharps to keep it profitable in the face of corporate
competition. But do the McDonald's and the Microsoft's always have to
beat out the people who actually have good products?
Well at least the Michigan Theater still exists.
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cloud
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response 40 of 64:
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Sep 11 23:26 UTC 1998 |
And may it last.
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polygon
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response 41 of 64:
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Sep 12 16:22 UTC 1998 |
Well, I hope y'all are ready for the disappearance of the Michigan
Theater marquee.
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mcnally
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response 42 of 64:
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Sep 12 17:31 UTC 1998 |
re #39: If Schoolkids' had remained as notable a record store as
many people seem to remember it being I think it would've survived.
In recent years, though, there seemed to be little reason for me to
shop there -- their selection (at least in the areas I shopped for)
was not notably better than other stores in town and in fact was
substantially inferior in a couple of the specialty niches that *I*
desired, though I'm willing to grant that they probably had a fine
selection of records in some of the sections I never wandered into.
As for Borders being responsible for killing them off, if there was
a record store in town being capable of killed off by Borders' music
section with its very high prices and middle-of-the-road selection
then I'd have to say that store was alreasdy in big trouble..
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cloud
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response 43 of 64:
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Sep 12 17:58 UTC 1998 |
One thing I remember from my last trip to SKR. I was looking for some
Marillion albums, and they had them- for upwards of twenty bucks. They didn't
have one I wanted, so I enquired at the desk for ordering info. The price
on what I wanted was far lower than anything on the shelves, which were
"imports". So I enquired as to the catoloug prices for the items on the
shelves, and they were about $5 cheaper to order than to buy right there.
Why? Because the stuff on the shelves were imported, while the stuff in the
catologe from a domestic distributer. Does this strike anyone else as an odd
way to do buisness?
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scott
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response 44 of 64:
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Sep 12 20:37 UTC 1998 |
Um, why is the Michigan Theater marque going away, Larry?
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eieio
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response 45 of 64:
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Sep 12 20:54 UTC 1998 |
I've heard that there was talk of exterior renovations, to make the marquee
look more like it did in the 20s/30s.
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senna
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response 46 of 64:
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Sep 13 00:41 UTC 1998 |
They're renovating the facade of the Michigan Theater to return it to its
original "feel."
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maeve
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response 47 of 64:
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Sep 13 01:05 UTC 1998 |
whee..
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polygon
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response 48 of 64:
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Sep 13 04:33 UTC 1998 |
We had a fairly contentious hearing about this at the Historic District
Commission. In the end we voted to let them do it.
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scg
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response 49 of 64:
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Sep 13 06:37 UTC 1998 |
I walked by Schoolkids this afternoon. There's now yet another long note from
Steve Bergman posted on the door. This one says that there will be a new
independant music store opening in their space when they close (which he will
not be involved with), and that he will be opening a much smaller record store
somewhere else downtown.
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krj
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response 50 of 64:
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Sep 13 17:47 UTC 1998 |
Perhaps what I will miss the most from Schoolkids is the loss of
their "editorial view." In some ways the store was like a music
magazine. Mark Ziemba expressed their biases well in resp:29 --
"earthy ethnic music, American and foreign" -- and from what I
see in the responses here, I suspect your alignment with that
bias determines how sad you are about the end of the store.
Schoolkids expressed its editorial view in a number of ways.
Most obvious would be the reviews they whipped up and pasted on
the fronts of CDs they were pushing. I never read them uncritically --
Schoolkids was much more enthusiastic about singer-songwriters than
I am -- but they were always pointers to albums I might want to
at least know about, if not own.
For some really obscure items, occasionally the store would just
cut out reviews from other sources and paste them on the disc.
On some discs, this at least gave you a clue of what to expect,
more so than the murky artwork.
More than anywhere else, Schoolkids is where I would go up to the
counter and ask to buy whatever they were playing in the store.
It might have been some folk singers from Corsica; it might have been
Kim Richey. Earlier this year it was Freakwater -- I was never
going to buy another Freakwater cd, as I'd felt burned by several of
their older discs, but their new release SPRINGTIME is pretty good.
Many of my jazz and blues buys have been chosen based on Schoolkids
in-store play, because I don't track those genres closely.
On one of my last trips to the store, the disc which was being played
on the jazz side was Ray Bailey/SATAN'S HORN, a rather nice electric
blues set. It was out of stock; the clerk offered to special order it
for me, but it turns out the disc is out of print, and the whole
record label has been shut down. Some people might think it was
pretty odd of a record store to give in-store play to a disc they
could not sell you, and some people might have been annoyed.
Me, I was just happy to make the introduction of Mr. Bailey; I
scribbled down the info about the disc and found a copy a few days
later at a Wazoo shop.
And that's what I'll miss the most about Schoolkids: the hopeful
optimism that on every trip there, the store will introduce me
to something new and interesting.
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anderyn
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response 51 of 64:
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Sep 14 00:43 UTC 1998 |
Yeah.... Oh. Did you get Red Rice, Ken? It's pretty good.
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bmoran
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response 52 of 64:
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Sep 14 03:34 UTC 1998 |
On a hand written divider in the pop section, I saw
Mr.Michael Bolton,Esq.
I don't think I'll see anything like that in a corp store.
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omni
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response 53 of 64:
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Sep 14 06:57 UTC 1998 |
Michael Bolton is a lawyer? I always thought he needed a backup career for
when he stops recording albums. ;)
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clees
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response 54 of 64:
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Sep 14 08:01 UTC 1998 |
It was Discount records.
Popular?
Hmmm, makes me wonder whether my taste for 'alternative' music (which
distinguishes me from the Dutch massess) isn't that alternative when it
comes to comparing it to Americans.
But the fact that I was very pleased to notice radio stations that
actually don't play house, but rock, adds seriously to the impression.
I can tell you that almost all radio stations in the Netherlands only
differ in the wavelength they're broadcasting on.
*uch*
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anderyn
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response 55 of 64:
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Sep 14 18:10 UTC 1998 |
I definitely wouldn't call Metallica alternative. Popular, definitely.
Don't know about Massive Attack. But hey -- *I* even like Metallica.
And every store in the US has it -- I mean, even Target and K-mart
and Walmarts carry a group like Metallica. So that's not what I'd
call anything hard to find. Now, me, I like hard to find stuff.
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