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brighn
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response 31 of 73:
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Jan 4 14:24 UTC 2002 |
For the record, I was just being silly, not making a serious accusation, so
I'm a little taken aback at the nastiness of #30. But I'll answer the
question.
I call women "cock teases" when it is apparent that they have no interest
whatsoever in backing up their seductive behavior (and I've used the term for
females in whom I had no interest, or whose behavior wasn't directed at me).
Sure,it's a fine distinction: People flirt all the time with no intentions
to follow up; so do I. But there's a difference between that and, say,
bouncing on someone's lap and stroking their cheek, and then openly laughing
or looking surprised when the person tries to follow up.
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phenix
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response 32 of 73:
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Jan 4 16:21 UTC 2002 |
cock teases otherwise known as "scary bitches", "fifteen year old girls" and
"dancers and actresses"
oh, "vamps", "courtisans" etc.
the idea is to seduce someone, and then give da old "what? with you? hah.
that's a laugh"
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brighn
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response 33 of 73:
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Jan 4 17:22 UTC 2002 |
Greg put it more succinctly than I did. =}
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phenix
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response 34 of 73:
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Jan 4 17:46 UTC 2002 |
<bow>
i have names if you need examples.
i went to a school filled with these people.
such bets as "who can get the most money out of a guy before doing anything"
"who looses thier virginity last but has the most boys trailing them"
yha
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brighn
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response 35 of 73:
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Jan 4 18:32 UTC 2002 |
I've seen 'em on Jenny Jones, too. Girls who play guys for all sorts of
expensive gifts, and then don't put it.*
*That's not to say that the only reason for giving a woman a gift is so that
she'll give you sex. Not harldy. But when a guy gives you a Mercedes because
you bounce on his lap and squeeze his crotch, I think the implication is
pretty strong WHY he gave you the Mercedes, and if you don't want to put out,
give the Mercedes back.
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response 36 of 73:
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Jan 4 21:48 UTC 2002 |
I didn't mean for #30 to be taken very nasty. just as you didnt think your
behavior in party should be taken nasty i guess. your posts are fairly well
written and you seem mature and witty in bbs. so i was taken aback by how you
behaved. in any case, i agree it's quite rude to act sexually interested in
someone and then make them feel dumb for reciprocating the interest. do you
think there are people that encourage this behavior? seems there are a lot
of people, who, once they *know* they can sleep with someone whenever they
want, they are no longer interested. (this is the part where things go back
to the original header "sex and ownership".)
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response 37 of 73:
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Jan 4 21:52 UTC 2002 |
And i refuse to acknowledge the guests of jenny jones (or anyone suitable to
*be* a guest on that show) as people to use as an example of anything besides
stupidity.
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phenix
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response 38 of 73:
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Jan 4 21:56 UTC 2002 |
ok, i went to school with these people
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response 39 of 73:
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Jan 4 21:59 UTC 2002 |
High School?
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brighn
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response 40 of 73:
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Jan 4 22:00 UTC 2002 |
#36> I'll admit that, depending on my mood, I can come off as a blazing jerk
in party. Depending on who's there (and this doesn't apply to the case in
question), it can even be deliberate (there was a time years ago when Greg
and I didn't exactly get along like troopers in Party, f'rinstance).
Sure, people of both genders use sex as a tool for power. When men do so, it's
an acquisition technique: How many fawning women can I get? When women do so,
it's a seduction technique: How much can I get from each man? (Those are gross
generalizations, too.)
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response 41 of 73:
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Jan 4 22:00 UTC 2002 |
some of the jerks i went to school with were suitable guests for jenny jones.
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phenix
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response 42 of 73:
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Jan 4 22:07 UTC 2002 |
yha, high school. my collage carrier, so far as it exists to this point,
has not exactly been a social extraviganza
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response 43 of 73:
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Jan 4 22:26 UTC 2002 |
yes there are jenny jones candidates in college too. in fact, they're
everywhere. they seem to have terrible tempers. i can hear them outside
screaming at each other when i'm trying to sleep. i think i do a pretty good
job at avoiding them, but some of them are just goddamn loud.
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flem
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response 44 of 73:
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Jan 4 22:45 UTC 2002 |
There's more than one kind of cock-tease. There are the malicious ones, who
get a power rush out of deliberately manipulating men, and there are the ones
who flirt for attention and just don't know how to tell when they're
crossing the line. Innocent, but obnoxious.
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response 45 of 73:
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Jan 5 00:01 UTC 2002 |
i never considered a man a c*** tease. i have lots of male friends who are
very affectionate with me. we kiss and hug and flirt, but there's no issue
of sex. if i proposition a man who's touchy and flirty and he's not intersted,
does that make him a c*** tease?
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phenix
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response 46 of 73:
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Jan 5 00:04 UTC 2002 |
only if he's created the unrealistic expectation of nookie
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response 47 of 73:
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Jan 5 00:07 UTC 2002 |
that answer doesn't satisfy me
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orinoco
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response 48 of 73:
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Jan 5 00:38 UTC 2002 |
Then how 'bout "only if he used that expectation to manipulate you."? If
someone is flirty and physical with me, I make a proposition, and I get turned
down, then there's not necessarily any harm done. But if that proposition
is used to guilt-trip or blackmail me, or if the promise of getting laid is
being held out like a carrot to get favors out of me, then I start to get
pissed.
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response 49 of 73:
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Jan 5 00:44 UTC 2002 |
then he's just a manipulative c***.
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lelande
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response 50 of 73:
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Jan 5 22:03 UTC 2002 |
if you proposition a man who's touchy and flirty and he's not interested then
he's either scared or wants you to TAKE him, by hook or by crook.
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brighn
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response 51 of 73:
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Jan 6 04:37 UTC 2002 |
Once again, there's a difference between touchy and flirty, and creating an
expectation of sexual readiness. Also, if I'm fliting with someone and I'm
not serious, and they proposition me as if I'd been serious, I'll tell them
that I could see where there had been a misunderstanding, but I'm really not
interested in anything beyond flirting, sorry. I don't laugh and say, "Sex?
With you? You must be crazy. Where'd you get that silly idea?"
And then I re-examine my own flirtation to see if the confusion was justified
by my actions, or if the person just misread signals.
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response 52 of 73:
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Jan 6 06:10 UTC 2002 |
okay so then whats exactly the difference between touchy and flirting and
creating an expectation of sexual readiness?
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cyklone
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response 53 of 73:
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Jan 6 06:22 UTC 2002 |
As Paul mentioned, it sometimes depends on the perceptions of the person
trying to make that determination. OTOH, the more legitimate question
would be "how would a *reasonable* person define the distinction between
'touchy and flirty' and 'creating an expectation of sexual readiness'?"
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response 54 of 73:
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Jan 6 06:48 UTC 2002 |
well i'm hoping a *reasonable* person is willing to provide an answer.
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cyklone
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response 55 of 73:
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Jan 6 14:06 UTC 2002 |
I'm not sure a reasonable person would post on grex
;)
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