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25 new of 457 responses total.
naftee
response 306 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 15 11:29 UTC 2005

Just like /etc/passwd files, right, gelinas ?
keesan
response 307 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 20 04:42 UTC 2005

I dialed 4840513 and got a busy number but 4840512 was free.  Isn't it
supposed to hunt through the 'queue' of both numbers?
i
response 308 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 20 23:14 UTC 2005

Isn't 484-0512 the 1st number and -0513 the 2nd number in the queue?
My experience is that phone number queues don't "wrap around"...this
works fine as long as people don't dial numbers further up the queue
...but features like "call back" break this assumption.
keesan
response 309 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 21 02:40 UTC 2005

I have been dialing the second number because the first modem seemed to be
bad.  Has someone replaced it?
gull
response 310 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 21 21:05 UTC 2005

Re resp:308: That's the way it works on our phone system at work.  A
number "lower" in the hunt group will work its way up to "higher"
numbers, but if it reaches the top it doesn't try from the bottom again;
you just get a busy signal.
naftee
response 311 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 28 13:10 UTC 2005

I get a permission error when trying to access http://grex.org/cgi-bin/wnu
jep
response 312 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 31 16:19 UTC 2005

The login screen has said for weeks that newuser is temporarily 
disabled, and that the staff is still working on restoring some 
accounts.  How many accounts are still being restored?  How long until 
newuser will be turned back on?

Thanks!
naftee
response 313 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 31 16:27 UTC 2005

Thanks, jep !
mary
response 314 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 31 16:29 UTC 2005

That we know of there is only one staff member left on Grex who has the 
skills to work through this issue.  That's STeve.  STeve knows about the 
problem.  I have to assume his life is very busy or he'd be working on it.  
There is no estimate on when this will be fixed.  
albaugh
response 315 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 31 21:20 UTC 2005

The following is not to put pressure on STeve.  But despite my own level of
"eh" re: newuser being shut off, it's not very tenable that grex, with its
stated mission, a) should be running for an extended period of time with
newuser down, and b) should have only *ONE* staffer able to address the
situation.
tod
response 316 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 31 21:28 UTC 2005

Perhaps Cyberspace should dissolve itself.
nharmon
response 317 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 31 21:31 UTC 2005

Perhaps we need more volunteer sysadmins?
albaugh
response 318 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 31 21:41 UTC 2005

If it dissolved itself, would that really be a "solution"?  ;-)
mary
response 319 of 457: Mark Unseen   May 31 22:25 UTC 2005

It's a lot easier to be provocative than to find reasonable solutions.
naftee
response 320 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 00:18 UTC 2005

i volunteer.
slynne
response 321 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 00:24 UTC 2005

resp:315 as it happens, I agree with you. I cant think of any good
solutions though. I dont personally have the time to learn how to fix
grex's issue myself. I dont know anyone else who might have the skills
and who would be willing to help out. I wish I did. 
jep
response 322 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 13:11 UTC 2005

Yeah, identifying the problem in this case is easier than fixing it.  
Grex's staff has been very exclusive and non-trusting of other users.  
It's worked pretty well in the past, but now that they're losing 
interest and dropping off in activity level, there are no replacements 
and no method for bringing in any new staff members.  It might be a 
good idea for the Board to put some serious thought into the matter and 
formulate a plan of some kind.  I know the idea has been mentioned in 
coop before, but nothing came of it.

Mdw and valerie are gone, janc and steve are about half here (with 
amazing bursts of energy at times), i just keeps cranking along 
invisibly but isn't participating in conferences much any more.  With 
all due respect for all of these people, they don't seem like active 
users in Grex's current environment.  It's harder to imagine any of 
them returning to active participation than just going away.  When they 
do, or at least if they do, who runs Grex?
mary
response 323 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 15:49 UTC 2005

I think there are some important questions that deserves to be mentioned, 
like, why should a qualified person want to volunteer their time for Grex?  
Is the sense of community persuasive enought to be worth the effort?  Is 
the time donated appreciated? Do they like the people that will benefit 
from their generosity?  Is Grex a fun place worthy of support?

It may not be the fault of the staff and potential volunteer that we're in 
this pickle.
other
response 324 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 16:04 UTC 2005

Mary has a good point.  Anyone doing a simple cost/benefit analysis of
being root staff of grex would be have to be either crazy to do it, or
they'd very likely have some kind of agenda.  In either case, they're
not very attractive candidates for the job.  That leaves only those who
are really interested in the job, or at least in the skills that having
the job will help develop (like a healthy insensitivity to harsh and
worthless criticism).
nharmon
response 325 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 16:20 UTC 2005

From looking at http://www.grex.org/staffnote/, one would get the
impression that Grex is overflowing with staff members. And this might
discourage people from volunteering. Perhaps we can trim this list?

Re: 323 and 324, We all understand Grex Board's reluctance to just hand over
the keys to someone they don't know. This is why it is necessary to constantly
bring in new volunteers, people who gradually are trusted with more of the
system. But that doesn't seem to be happening. How many people on the list
of Grex staff started working as staff in the past 2 years?
mary
response 326 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 16:35 UTC 2005

That list is out of date.  Current staff, as I know it:

steve (STeve Andre)
kip (Kip deGraff)
gelinas (Joe Gelinas)
i (Walter Cramer)
cross (Dan Cross)
spooked (Michelangelo Giansiracusa)
arthurp (Charles Mitchell)
remmers (John Remmers)
mdw (Marcus Watts)
srw (Steve Weiss)
janc (Jan Wolter)

Of those eleven, three have are new to staff within the past two years.
I hope I haven't missed anyone. 
rcurl
response 327 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 17:11 UTC 2005

How many of these can fix newuser? 
albaugh
response 328 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 17:47 UTC 2005

If grex cannot fulfill its mission - which necessarily means having a working
newuser - then it has no business asking for donations to support that
mission.  The board must realize this as being part of its responsibility to
address.  If everyone is weary of grex for one reason or another, then fine,
turn off its nonexempt / charitible status, and turn it into a private club,
one which may or may not work at any particular time, depending on whether
or not anyone feels like addressing any problems which may crop up.

Call a spade a spade!

(this really belongs in coop, I know)
gull
response 329 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 17:57 UTC 2005

Re resp:317: My understanding is you don't volunteer, you get invited.


Re resp:322: Given the beatings staff takes in the conferences, if I
were a staff member I'd probably avoid them, too.
eprom
response 330 of 457: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 18:11 UTC 2005

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