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rcurl
response 305 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 19 17:27 UTC 2004

  1:19pm  up 29 days, 15:38,  5 users,  load average: 0.41, 0.41, 0.28
Login      Name               TTY  Idle  Login Time   Location   Work Phone
amishel  anton mishel          p5    4d  May 15 02:31
newuser  The Newuser Program   p0   17d  Apr 24 13:51
rcurl    Rane Curl            *pe        May 19 13:19
sgsg     sg                    p6   19d  Apr 30 08:12
viju     Johnson               p8    1d  May 18 02:28

Net connection down. But shouldn't the idle zapper have zapped some of
those idlers? 
kip
response 306 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 19 18:19 UTC 2004

Haven't worked with the idle zapper yet, not sure, would think so.

DSL back up.  I'll be trying out the replacement DSL modem after work today
twenex
response 307 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 19 19:19 UTC 2004

Patience? What patience? ;-P
kip
response 308 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 19 23:26 UTC 2004

On the DSL news front, I tried out the new modem, but it remained in IDSL
mode and wouldn't connect to our SDSL connection.  I'm taking it home and will
reread the manual to see what I missed.

Also, our old DSL modem managed to lock up starting about 1:00am EDT today,
I didn't get a chance to run down to the Pumpkin until about 2:00pm to kick
it.  Amusingly, the stats for the old modem from 2:15pm to 7:00pm, when I
disconnected it to try the new modem, were perfect with no errors what so ever.

Did anyone happen to notice if they had lag between 2:15pm and 7:00pm today?
I'm still talking to our ISP in case it turns out to be the line.  :)
mcnally
response 309 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 00:28 UTC 2004

  If the new DSL modem isn't linking to the provider's DSLAM it's probably
  because you need information about what settings to use;  hopefully the
  provider can provide them if they haven't already done so.

  I'm not sure what information you have about the connection already but
  DSL comes in a pretty wide range of flavors, including different line
  codings, different protocols, different authentication specifications,
  etc..  It's not realistic to just plug in a DSL modem and expect it to
  work without knowing more about your provider's setup.  

  Most probably you already knew all that, but I mention it just in case
  you didn't.  DSL is unfortunately not as "plug and play" as many other
  networking technologies.
achu
response 310 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 00:32 UTC 2004

in ancient china, communications took a different route.

everyone knows about the chinese pea shooters that young boys like to wield.

but where did this enwielding custom come from?

it came from a sort of training.  in ancient days, the land of china was
covered by vast networks of bamboo connecting post offices in cities towns
and villages to other post offices in other ctvs.  messages would be
transported pneumatically by blowing strongly into one endexpress mail was
also sucked.  the people learned how to do this by first practicing with pea
shooters.
twenex
response 311 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 03:05 UTC 2004

After a fairly long hiatus, grex connectivity problems are back.

Welcome to Grex, Lagadelphia - City of Brotherly Lag.
tsty
response 312 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 03:50 UTC 2004

.. not right now ... someting is going right .. for the moment.
tod
response 313 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 17:07 UTC 2004

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mcnally
response 314 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 18:05 UTC 2004

  Admittedly, even after most of a year working for a DSL provider
  I haven't mastered a good deal of the lingo (the telco side being
  perhaps even worse than the computer side for having its own 
  vocabulary) but at least as I have usually heard them used, "ADSL"
  vs "SDSL" shouldn't matter.  The "A" and the "S" stand for 
  "asymmetric" and "symmetric" and refer basically to the upload and
  download speeds.  Those aren't generally things that need to be set
  up in the customer's modem, they're more usually limited by the 
  provider at the DSLAM.

  I won't know the specifics for your DSL provider but it's possible
  I can still provide advice on the DSL issue.  Don't hesitate to ask
  if you need assistance..
twenex
response 315 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 18:08 UTC 2004

Re: #314. Yeah; people who complain about computers being hard to use wuold
be totally lost in the telephone world if what i've seen of it is anything
to go by. As a self-confessed geek, the stories in Levy's HACKERS about theMIT
Hackers who engaged in phreaking struck me as really nerdy. Yes, I can smell
the irony right here. It's burning my butt.
mcnally
response 316 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 18:40 UTC 2004

  re #314:  My mistake -- I thought in the other item you'd said "ADSL", 
  not "IDSL"..
twenex
response 317 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 18:42 UTC 2004

So, what's "IDSL"?
scott
response 318 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 20:49 UTC 2004

"Intermittent Digital Subscriber Line".  Strangely unpopular, though.
twenex
response 319 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 20:51 UTC 2004

I see. Thanks. Maybe the "intermittent" has to do with unpopularity. maybe
peple think it's Redmond Quality h/w.
kip
response 320 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 21:38 UTC 2004

Sorry, the day job has been pretty full today and I still have a class to
teach tonight, so I haven't made much headway.

IDSL stands for ISDN Digital Subscriber Line and is usually used where ADSL
and SDSL can't reach due to the excessive distances from the Central Office.

The issue appears to be that I'll have to replace the firmware in the DSL
modem to deal with SDSL or RFC1483, as it is currently set to deal with
IDSL/Frame Relay/RFC1490.

Anyway, I'll be looking into tonight after class.
kip
response 321 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 21:41 UTC 2004

Plus the silly manufacturer really writes their stuff like you'll always have
a Windows PC laying around to install all sorts of nasty software on it just
to do things like TFTP.  We've got a perfectly good OpenBSD box to do that
with instead.  :)
twenex
response 322 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 21:45 UTC 2004

Gah. Clickanddroolville.
realugly
response 323 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 22:12 UTC 2004

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soup
response 324 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 20 23:43 UTC 2004

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tod
response 325 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 21 00:36 UTC 2004

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twenex
response 326 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 21 00:38 UTC 2004

Heh. nice one :-)
realugly
response 327 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 21 02:08 UTC 2004

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soup
response 328 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 21 02:47 UTC 2004

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gull
response 329 of 405: Mark Unseen   May 21 14:44 UTC 2004

Re resp:315: I recently had to deal with an SBC employee who needed some
specific information about our phone system at work.  He kept using
telco lingo that I didn't understand, and when I'd say "I don't know
what that is" he'd just repeat the same thing over again.  He was
totally incapable of communicating with anyone who wasn't familiar with
the jargon.

We've been trying to switch our phone system from KMC to SBC, but for
some reason they want a bunch of highly technical information that we
don't know and have never had to provide before.
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