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slynne
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response 303 of 378:
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Mar 10 21:33 UTC 2006 |
That is my point. The statistics are seldom presented in a meaningful
way. For example:
"Individuals who are obese (BMI > 30)* have a 50 to 100% increased risk
of premature death from all causes, compared to individuals with a
healthy weight." <---- this is a meaningless statistic unless one knows
what the risk of premature death from all causes is. I mean, if 10
people out of a 1000 die prematurely and the obesity risk doubles that
so 20 out of 1000 die prematurely...well that is a very different thing
than if the original risk of dying prematurely is 495/1000. See what I
mean?
Here is what I think. I think it is possible that even with a doubled
or even tripled risk of premature death, fat people are MORE likely not
to die prematurely than they are to die prematurely. They just are more
likely to die prematurely than someone who isnt obese.
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slynne
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response 304 of 378:
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Mar 10 21:40 UTC 2006 |
Heh. I have a dog who thinks it is her life's mission to keep cats in
line. She is part Border Collie and "herds" my cat
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glenda
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response 305 of 378:
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Mar 11 00:50 UTC 2006 |
If I loose weight and my blood pressure and blood sugar levels drop along with
it, I am in serious trouble. I have low blood sugar and low blood pressure.
When I was in the hospital for my surgeries in late 2003 and mid 2004 I had
real problems with the nurses and blood pressure. Since I am overweight they
would always pump the machine up into the 200 range. My normal pressure runs
in the neighborhood of 105/60.
Right after STeve's stroke in 2001, our Dr felt that we both fit the profile
of becoming diabetic and put us on a preventative medication without checking
my blood sugar levels. I didn't think much about it since it is in my
records. Within a couple of days I was shaky, nauseated, couldn't
concentrate, etc. I realized what was going on and quit taking them, sent
email to him telling him so and why. He agreed.
Just because you are overweight doesn't mean that you get the all or any of
the problems associated with it. Unfortunately, even the medical profession
tends to have the preconceived negatives of being overweight. The only real
problem I have that can be contributed to my being overweight is the arthritis
in my knees, and only a portion of it. They were going bad even before I put
on the weight, may actually be part of the reason why I put it on in the first
place. My knees have been a problem since my early teens, I was very active
in my youth and damaged them often. The pain in the knees slowed me down as
exercise hurt. Walking started to hurt before I was 25, I gave up biking
because of it. I continued to walk until about the time of the June 2004
surgery. By that point they hurt all the time, moving or not. Exercise
becomes the last thing you want to do when every step, every movement is
agony. Even turning over in bed can cause me to wake up crying with the pain.
It then becomes an evil cycle -- no exercise - weight gain, weight gain - more
pain - less exercise. I seem to have curtailed the gain, now to work on the
loss. I did do physical therapy in a heated pool a couple of times a week.
It helped with the stiffness and some weight loss, but not the pain.
Unfortunately, with the semester change my free hours no longer matched the
pool's open hours. A normal pool doesn't work, cold water causes the muscles
to tighten rather than relax. The therapy pool is kept at 90 degress, most
people won't tolerate that kind of temps in a pool.
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keesan
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response 306 of 378:
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Mar 11 01:01 UTC 2006 |
They measured my blood pressure with an automatic machine that automatically
goes up to 160, not 200, but my pressure is low like yours and the machine
was giving wrong readings so I convinced them to do it manually (and start
at 120 and measure me at 105 or 99).
What hurts besides your knees? Maybe there is some upper body exercise that
you could do at home, such as situps or pushups.
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glenda
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response 307 of 378:
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Mar 11 01:09 UTC 2006 |
Mostly knees, with the hips and ankles joining in on occasion just for fun.
I was having some pain in my right wrist last night while I was working on
a needlepoint piece. I am hoping that it was because I had the frame leaning
against my desk rather than mounted in its stand (no room for the stand at
the moment)
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slynne
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response 308 of 378:
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Mar 11 01:11 UTC 2006 |
The physical therapy helped? How much does something like that cost? I
injured my knee recently and it isnt healing nearly as fast as I would
like. I have been walking anyways because the pain seems to mostly go
away when I walk but I keep wondering if there might be something I can
do to help it heal faster. Well, that is on my list of things to talk to
my doctor about.
Glenda does bring up an interesting thought. How many physical ailments
actually make people fat. I mean, if a person has mobility issues, they
are likely to gain weight, right? I have heard people say that sleep
apnea probably causes some weight gain so that becomes a crazy cycle
too. Being overweight makes the sleep apnea worse and the worse the
sleep apnea is, the more people tend to gain weight. *shrug*
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glenda
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response 309 of 378:
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Mar 11 03:28 UTC 2006 |
Therapy helped a bit with the overall stiffness, but not the pain. My
insurance allows 60 PT sessions per problem per calendar year. If I have to
go beyond that, med sport has what they call a "transitional" program.
$50/month up to $400/year anytime the pool is open, but not with a therapist.
The pool is open basically all day Mon-Fri with limited hours on Sat. My
problem is that I need the therapist and he is only in the pool area for two
hours a day Mon-Fri. Unfortunately, I am in class (working classes) during
those times this semester. Maybe next term as I am currently planning on not
taking classes and the classes being offered that I would cover are evening
classes.
It is also unfortunate that we have been unable to find anything that will
take care of the pain. OT drugs don't work, nisads don't work, muscle
relaxants don't help. The only thing the Dr can offer at this point is
narcotics. For the moment, I will live with the pain. I need to be able to
drive, both the car and computers. I need my brain firing without the
interferance of narcotics. If the pain gets too much worse, or I get to the
point that STeve and the kids can't put up with the moods caused by the pain,
I will consider narcotics, until then I will put up with it.
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tod
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response 310 of 378:
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Mar 11 04:44 UTC 2006 |
I hear donuts cure sleep apnea and knee problems. The trick is to wash them
down with chocolae milk and ice cream.
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happyboy
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response 311 of 378:
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Mar 11 09:16 UTC 2006 |
gad dam str8!
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glenda
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response 312 of 378:
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Mar 11 10:09 UTC 2006 |
Thanks, but no thanks. Way too much sugar for me.
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richard
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response 313 of 378:
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Mar 11 20:44 UTC 2006 |
taking a shot of a good 12 year old scotch or some other liquor of your
choice before bed might help. You that Nyquil's primary ingredient is
alcohol.
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cyklone
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response 314 of 378:
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Mar 11 20:47 UTC 2006 |
Wow, talk about contrary to common medical wisdom . . . .
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richard
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response 315 of 378:
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Mar 11 22:51 UTC 2006 |
cyklone, no its not. alcohol is a downer, you drink it and it goes to
your brain and reduces activity in the central nervous system. It
reduces brain activity, which is what has to happen to induce sleep.
Why do you think they put it in nyquil?
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scholar
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response 316 of 378:
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Mar 11 23:06 UTC 2006 |
Nyquil is 10% alcohol. A standard dose of Nyquil is 30 mL -- which would have
3 mL of alcohol in it. A single 341 mL bottle of 5% beer has 17.05 mL of
alcohol. Why would an insignificant amount of alcohol be included as a
sedative when Nyquil already contains a significant amount of the sedative
doxylamine succinate?
Should Agora include a regular item to document instances of Richard's lies?
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slynne
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response 317 of 378:
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Mar 12 00:53 UTC 2006 |
I suspect that the alcohol in NyQuil interacts with the other drugs in
NyQuil which in turn induces drowsiness. Alcohol itself can also do the
same thing but if IRC, when people go to sleep after drinking, the
quality of sleep is negatively effected.
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scholar
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response 318 of 378:
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Mar 12 01:16 UTC 2006 |
If the alcohol acted to induce drowsiness, it would be included in the active
ingredients list, which it isn't.
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keesan
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response 319 of 378:
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Mar 12 01:21 UTC 2006 |
Alcohol is a preservative, which is why it may be in some liquid medications
such as mouthwash.
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scholar
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response 320 of 378:
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Mar 12 01:23 UTC 2006 |
And it's obviously not included because it is an antiseptic.
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slynne
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response 321 of 378:
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Mar 12 02:16 UTC 2006 |
huh. and all of this time, I thought the alcohol helped the NyQuil knock
folks out.
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keesan
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response 322 of 378:
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Mar 12 02:42 UTC 2006 |
Lynne, if you happen to be in central Ann Arbor we will be happy to go for
a walk along the river with you. Today we took a little walk from the dam
to Bandemer Park and back. It is mostly level. We could also walk the other
direction to the Arboretum along the river, and then to Gallup Park where they
are even more trails, also level, and lots of geese and ducks.
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richard
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response 323 of 378:
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Mar 12 02:58 UTC 2006 |
re #318 Or maybe we should start documenting how many times Scholar
says I'm lying when I am not. Here is a link to a chart which tells
you how much % alcohol is in Nyquil:
http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/HealthIssues/1127525665.html
As the chart tells you, I was in fact off on it. Nyquil is 25%
alcohol. Taking a swig of Nyquil is akin to taking a shot of whiskey
and maybe two or three Tylenol.
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richard
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response 324 of 378:
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Mar 12 03:00 UTC 2006 |
You can also see by that list that many cold medicines are high
alcohol content. If you have a cold you could be just as well off
drinking a brandy than taking Contact Severe Cold Medecine which is
also 25% alcohol.
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scholar
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response 325 of 378:
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Mar 12 03:03 UTC 2006 |
Yet another complete and total lie.
Look at http://vicks.com/products/nyquil_liquid.shtml. Look at a bottle of
NyQuil. It's 10%.
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naftee
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response 326 of 378:
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Mar 12 03:05 UTC 2006 |
that doesn't mean it's an active ingredient, though ; scholar's still right.
Advertised Brand: NyQuil(R) or DayQuil(R)
Active Ingredient: Acetaminophen, Dextromethorphan, Doxylamine Succinate* and
Pseudoephedrine HCl (* ingredient is not included in DayQuil(R))
Store Brand Product: Nite Time Liquid or Softgels; Day Time Liquid or Softgels
(taken from http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=16181 )
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scholar
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response 327 of 378:
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Mar 12 03:10 UTC 2006 |
By the way: Far from being equivalent to a drink of whiskey (which has about
37 millilitres of alcohol), a standard dose of 25% alcohol NyQuil would have
7 millilitres of alcohol. We're talking about VERY small amounts of alcohol.
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