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scott
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response 30 of 65:
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Aug 3 13:43 UTC 2000 |
But if you download it, and longer "albums" means a longer download, then why
wouldn't you just want the single?
There's a real demand for singles, actually, and the record companies have
been mostly ignoring it. Remember when the movie soundtracks with 1 song from
each popular artist became big? And it's easier to get a song out osomebody
than a whole CD (ref NIN).
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mcnally
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response 31 of 65:
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Aug 3 17:45 UTC 2000 |
re #27: component players which understand MP3 as well as the "Red Book"
CD audio format have been on the market for more than a year now, though
it's still not a common feature on models from the major manufacturers.
Recently I've started seeing the first portable (discman sized) units that
will play MP3s from CD-ROMs/CD-Rs
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brighn
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response 32 of 65:
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Aug 3 19:46 UTC 2000 |
That's what I thought, but I don't follow home electronics, so I didn't want
to make a fool of myself by saying something was on the market when it
wasn't even in the works...
They tried singles with CDs, and they didn't do well. I wonder how much of
that was an effect of the CD-S being out at a time when CDs were twice the
price of LPs and cassettes, making the CD-S only a hair cheaaper than a
full-length cassette ($4.99 for the CD-S vs. $8.99 for the cassette, if I
recall correctly). That, and the smaller format wasn't completely compatible
with all players (the mini CD being about half the radius of the regular CD).
The drawback to singles in general is laziness. The advantage of a multi-disc
player/magazine is that you don't have to get up as often, but that one
advantage is enough to cause a real demand for them. Imagine a 10-CD magazine
filled with 10-hour CDs... continuous music for over 4 days... Never get up...
must have donuts...
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scott
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response 33 of 65:
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Aug 3 21:11 UTC 2000 |
The big problem with CD singles was that not all players could play them.
That and that they didn't really try very hard to promote singles, so not a
huge amount of production and therefore higher per-unit prices.
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brighn
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response 34 of 65:
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Aug 3 21:16 UTC 2000 |
Why are make-it-yourself CDs not doing better? A few services offer a large
variety of songs, of which you pick 12 or so for the price of a standard CD,
and yet the concept hasn't seemed to catch on as anything other than a fad.
Is it primarily because (as with the "Pepsi points" concept) the songs offered
aren't of sizable current interest, or because it's too much thought for the
consumer, or because the record companies are deliberately downplaying the
concept, or because there just isn't the sort of demand for it that one might
expect?
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krj
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response 35 of 65:
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Aug 4 22:19 UTC 2000 |
Small CD-singles (CD3 format, the 3" little discs) are pretty much
extinct in the US. I did see one at Borders a while back, though,
can't remember the artist. However, 5" (standard physical size)
CD singles seem to be alive and well, there is a whole wall of them
at Tower Records in East Lansing.
I don't know why make-it-yourself CDs aren't catching on either:
probably it has to do with the limited number of songs available
to such services.
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brighn
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response 36 of 65:
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Aug 4 22:26 UTC 2000 |
That's my own reason for not looking into them... I think CDNow has a
make-it-yourself service, and the last time I looked at the options, they
were fairly paltry.
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tpryan
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response 37 of 65:
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Aug 4 22:28 UTC 2000 |
Dave Clark Five's Greatest Hits LP would fit entirely on a
CD3--they hold about 20 minutes.
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tpryan
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response 38 of 65:
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Aug 4 22:31 UTC 2000 |
My Apex DVD plays MP3s put onto a CD-r disk. However, no CD like
features, such as fast audible search, only forward or back a track.
I'm not sure if it has to see a .MP3 as the first file to recognize that
it can do something with this disk.
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carson
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response 39 of 65:
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Aug 25 21:56 UTC 2000 |
re #1: (it *is* short, but the end sounds familiar. do you have
anything longer, or is that the gist of the song?)
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eprom
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response 40 of 65:
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Sep 8 02:24 UTC 2000 |
thats pretty much it, I'll have to find a clearer copy.
(hmm..this could be a chicken and egg thing; to find a copy, I'd probilly
need the title of the song, but to find the title, i'll need a clearer copy.)
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goose
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response 41 of 65:
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Oct 25 04:17 UTC 2000 |
RE#27 -- In the first paragraph you're totally wrong. There is nothing
inherantly 'lossy' about A/D conversion. The theory to explain this has been
around since the 1920's.
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dbratman
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response 42 of 65:
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Jan 26 07:52 UTC 2001 |
I ventured into a pop music store for the first time in a long while
today.
The, uh, work (it wasn't a song by any definition I have for the term)
playing over the store stereo consisted of a guy screaming "I'm a
liar!" and variants thereof, over a bass track.
The album in the "Now Playing" bin was by Radiohead.
Knowing that "Now Playing" bins are frequently in error, I am moved to
ask: Was this in fact Radiohead? If so, is this what they usually
sound like?
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orinoco
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response 43 of 65:
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Jan 26 16:47 UTC 2001 |
Radiohead is one of those bands who don't have a What They Usually Sound Like.
But I wouldn't be surprised if that were one of their.....songs. <ducks>
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mcnally
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response 44 of 65:
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Jan 26 22:01 UTC 2001 |
I'd pretty much agreee with #43, except to add that although I quite like
Radiohead's second album ("The Bends") I found their later albums (which
received substantial critical acclaim) too discordant and unpleasant to
listen to..
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brighn
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response 45 of 65:
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Jan 27 18:37 UTC 2001 |
#42> I would presume the song you describe would be Rollins Band's "Liar."
A fairly seminal agrorock theme; apparently you're not fond of that. Rollins
Band doesn't sound a bit like Radiohead.
Radiohead moans more than it screams, and the closest track that leaps to mind
is "Creep," which does have a very traditional stanza-chorus-stanza
architecture ("Cause I'm a creep / Yeah, I'm a loser / What that Hell am I
doing here? / I don't belong here").
I'm also not used to Radiohead having heavy bass, except heavily
synthesized... but then, that's what Kid A is (heavily synthesized).
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happyboy
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response 46 of 65:
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Jan 27 21:04 UTC 2001 |
sometimes...all i need is the air that i breath...
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krj
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response 47 of 65:
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Jan 27 23:23 UTC 2001 |
((I bought Radiohead's OK COMPUTER after it was highly praised by a
number of people in last year's favorite album poll here on Grex.
It eventually got given away to much younger Grexers.))
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mcnally
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response 48 of 65:
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Jan 28 05:44 UTC 2001 |
I definitely didn't understand the fuss over "OK COMPUTER".
I'm not sure you'd like "The Bends", either, Ken, but it's a lot
more listenable..
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brighn
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response 49 of 65:
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Jan 28 23:14 UTC 2001 |
"Pablo Honey" (which has "Creep") is preferable to "Kid A", IMHO. Radiohead
has gotten inaccessible, and too often critics confuse "inaccessible" and
"artistic."
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dbratman
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response 50 of 65:
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Jan 30 22:23 UTC 2001 |
Paul: I don't know what "agrorock" is, but from your description what I
was hearing was certainly not Radiohead. [Guessing that the agro
stands for aggressive or aggravating: it was certainly both of those.]
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brighn
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response 51 of 65:
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Jan 31 01:39 UTC 2001 |
I've heard "agrorock" in reference to post-heavy metal industrial fusion
spit-and-bile but not-quite-Death-metal genre consisting most famously of Tool
and Nine Inch Nails, among others. Rollins Band is postpunk (Henry Rollins
also fronted the earlier Black Flag, usually genred with the Sex
Pistols/Ramones school), and usually fairly mean in tempo (although many of
the songs are fairly upbeat, like "Low Self Opinion" -- "Liar" and "Civilized"
are definitely mean-spirited, though)... maybe a bit early to qualify as true
agrorock, but it's the closest genre that comes to mind.
The agro stands for aggressive.
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orinoco
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response 52 of 65:
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Jan 31 04:22 UTC 2001 |
(...and not "agricultural," despite what I thought for several years. I'm
not sure where that came from. It helps that I hadn't listened to much Tool
at the time, and didn't know that the term applied to NIN.)
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tpryan
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response 53 of 65:
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Feb 1 17:13 UTC 2001 |
So it's not agrowcultural?
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brighn
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response 54 of 65:
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Feb 1 20:54 UTC 2001 |
In spirit, at least, I think it applies more to Tool (whose spit-and-bile is
more outwardly focussed) than to NIN (more introverted, although Starfuckers,
Inc. is VERY outwardly pissed off, and even makes reference to Carly Simon's
"You're so Vain," one of the snidest songs ever written about a specific
person [Warren Beatty, IIRC... at least, I think he thought the song was about
him]).
Agrirock, in contrast, was popularized by John Mellencamp nee Cougar nee
Mellencamp, as an alternative to the remarkably similar yet starkly different
Urborock of Bruce Springsteen.
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