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Grex > Coop > #346: Nominations for the 2014 Grex Board of Directors (Second Special Election) | |
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cross
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response 30 of 102:
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Apr 5 12:22 UTC 2014 |
resp:29 Talk to TS. Oh, wait....
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kentn
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response 31 of 102:
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Apr 5 16:29 UTC 2014 |
We follow State of Michigan law. If the State ever asks for a list of
members, we would be required to give it to them. Board members also
need to give real names, addresses, and phone numbers. This information
is filed with the State each year in order to keep our corporation
active. That Board information is a public record.
The treasurer maintains the list of members. I don't think it would
be a good thing to publicly give out names and addresses if it is not
a requirement. But we do list members by userid occasionally. Other
organizations (for example, university alumni associations) often do
list names, but not addresses or phone numbers.
Since we don't have a maintained list on Grex of current members, it's
difficult to provide information for requests in the conferences.
Again, talk to TS. As difficult as it may be to contact him, that is
your method of finding what you seek right now.
If you want the membership process to run better, then the Board needs
to do something. However, anything for improving the membership list
will require the cooperation and timeliness of the treasure even if the
function of maintaining that membership roll is given to someone else
(or a group of someone elses--Grex has in the past had a membership
committee, for example). Perhaps a membership chair could be elected or
appointed by the Board?
Ultimately, it comes down to people doing things. This is a volunteer
organization. If people won't or can't do things, it is difficult to
motivate them. But we can look for people who are willing to do what
needs to be done.
Right now it's Hobson's Choice for treasurer unless someone else wants
to step up and do the job.
Every time the treasurer position has come up for Board officers, no one
wants it if they need to do the day to day work.
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rcurl
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response 32 of 102:
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Apr 5 17:56 UTC 2014 |
It certainly dosn'thelp membership, and general appreciation for Grex, if
officers are unavailable or don't do their jobs in a helpful manner. It
all hardly encurages anyone to donate money. And then there is a grief one
gets if one talks about it. Oh well, let's see if it's possible to find out
where and how much to pay........
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kentn
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response 33 of 102:
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Apr 5 17:57 UTC 2014 |
All the griping and the lack of doing is what makes it unbearable.
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denise
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response 34 of 102:
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Apr 5 19:24 UTC 2014 |
It would be nice if we had more people willing to run for the board or
to at least volunteer to take on some of the things that would help
Grex. It seems like people are always willing to talk about the
'problems' but not willing to help. If even a few people volunteered to
take on a project to make Grex more efficient and an enjoyable place to
be, then even more people may be encouraged to donate time and money.
And to participate in online discussions, etc.
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kentn
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response 35 of 102:
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Apr 5 20:11 UTC 2014 |
Woulda coulda shoulda.
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cross
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response 36 of 102:
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Apr 6 00:44 UTC 2014 |
resp:34 I agree. That's why I feel that responses such as resp:32 are
not helpful; instead of offering to help out in some fashion, Rane simply
complains about the status quo.
Not useful.
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rcurl
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response 37 of 102:
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Apr 7 17:59 UTC 2014 |
That also doesn't encourage anyone to donate money.
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kentn
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response 38 of 102:
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Apr 8 00:18 UTC 2014 |
So start encouraging people, Rane.
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cross
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response 39 of 102:
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Apr 8 08:42 UTC 2014 |
resp:37 What Kent said. Also, consider the motivation of someone to donate
money when they first come to Grex, and all they see is a bunch of grousing
from the regulars.
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rcurl
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response 40 of 102:
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Apr 8 20:16 UTC 2014 |
They'll start grousing on their own, when they see how things are run.
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kentn
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response 41 of 102:
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Apr 8 22:56 UTC 2014 |
So, you are volunteering to help with the running of things?
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tod
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response 42 of 102:
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Apr 9 04:12 UTC 2014 |
a bunch of bananas
a flock grousing
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cross
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response 43 of 102:
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Apr 9 11:49 UTC 2014 |
resp:40 Yeah, ok. So let us know when you are actually interested in
helping out.
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tod
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response 44 of 102:
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Apr 9 15:52 UTC 2014 |
We need to look at the Treasurer responsibilities and accountability with
the board. There's an obvious disconnect.
Plus, while a PO Box is great for taking donations/memberships - what
are the present day options to make it more accessible?
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rcurl
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response 45 of 102:
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Apr 9 17:51 UTC 2014 |
I've served on the Grex board, but got static for suggesting more
business-like procedures. No sense volunteering where I'm not wanted.
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kentn
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response 46 of 102:
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Apr 9 18:59 UTC 2014 |
A PO Box is a physical location, so as far as accessibility, you need
to have it close to the person or people who are going to be checking
it. It is also where we receive the state form we need to fill out
each year, so it needs to be checked periodically. In the past it has
overflowed and went unpaid, etc. so we need to have someone available
who can check it reliably. I think gelinas has a key in addition to
the treasurer.
Yes, we need to look at treasurer duties (as you might imagine, this
has been a Board topic of discussion many times over the last several
years). I think I sent the Board the list of duties that Mark put
together in years past. It is a good starting place, although some
items are no longer necessary. The treasurer is supposed to be doing
monthly financial reports according to the bylaws. That is to be done
no matter how often the Board meets. It is difficult to see how things
are running if we don't have up to date information on income/expense
and bank balance. I can't remember the last time we had a financial
report.
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cross
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response 47 of 102:
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Apr 10 02:04 UTC 2014 |
resp:45 You haven't served on the board in my memory. I think you just
like to complain about things that aren't run the way you think they should be
run.
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kentn
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response 48 of 102:
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Apr 10 02:16 UTC 2014 |
I don't find any record of Rane serving on the Grex board. When
was that exactly?
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tod
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response 49 of 102:
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Apr 10 04:59 UTC 2014 |
Is the chronology of board members online somewhere?
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cross
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response 50 of 102:
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Apr 10 13:14 UTC 2014 |
It's available at http://grex.org/cyberspace/board.xhtml, but is out of
date. rcurl is not listed, but to my knowledge, he has not served a board term
since that list was last updated. So I suspect he's never actually served on
Grex's board.
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remmers
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response 51 of 102:
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Apr 10 18:25 UTC 2014 |
Rane served one term on the Board sometime in the early or mid 1990s. I
remember because I was on the Board at the same time. I'm surprised it's
not easy to find in the record.
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kentn
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response 52 of 102:
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Apr 10 18:28 UTC 2014 |
We can update it if we have the right information. It has been updated
through 2015, but may need a little more updating.
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remmers
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response 53 of 102:
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Apr 10 18:30 UTC 2014 |
Apparently Rane was on the Board in 1994. See this:
http://cyberspace.org/grexdoc/archives/minutes/1994-01-11
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cross
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response 54 of 102:
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Apr 10 18:49 UTC 2014 |
I stand corrected, though it is curious that there seems to be no record of
his tenure on the board. Regardless, his experience is a twenty years old;
it's rather sad that he bases his current statements about how Grex operates
on such outdated knowledge.
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