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scholar
response 3 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 09:31 UTC 2006

Apart from the deaths and all, this item is pretty fucking hilarious.
mary
response 4 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 10:56 UTC 2006

God called them home.
slynne
response 5 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 14:04 UTC 2006

NO MARY!!! Now we are going to all have to argue about if this is God's 
fault or OSHA's ;)

ric
response 6 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 14:12 UTC 2006

Or God's will....

or OSHA's will...?
marcvh
response 7 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 15:37 UTC 2006

If 12 miners surviving is a sign that there's a god who loves us, then
presumably 12 miners perishing is evidence to the contrary.
rcurl
response 8 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 16:48 UTC 2006

What is interesting is that all the TV news outlets were hot into the
false story of 12 surviving. It was another case of the media jumping
on a story - a rumor, actually - without verification, in the rush for
the sensational. They just don't learn. Apparently some news person overheard
a conversation among some rescuers and misinterpreted it. Yet the company
and rescuers were giving out news reports when they had any news to report.
I would think heads should roll, but perhaps it all blew over late at night
and few heard how wrong they were.
tod
response 9 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:02 UTC 2006

Hatfield's announcement sent Anna Casto, who lost her cousin, into a tirade.

"No, he strictly told us they was alive," Casto said. "Three hours later he
come back and said they wasn't." 

"We want to know why, and how people can get by with this," she said. 

Casto said the tragedy has shaken the faith of some in the community. "We have
got some of us ... saying... that we don't even know if there is a Lord
anymore," she said. "We had a miracle, and it was taken away from us."



She obviously goes to The Church of Jesus Conditional Christ

jep
response 10 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:10 UTC 2006

Those families have a right to be upset.  What a tragic set of events 
for them.
tod
response 11 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:19 UTC 2006

 "No, he strictly told us they was alive," Casto said. "Three hours later he
 come back and said they wasn't."
Least she didn't say ain't.
marcvh
response 12 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:22 UTC 2006

In that context "wasn't" is the past conjugation of "ain't."
tod
response 13 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:29 UTC 2006

Now I git it!
rcurl
response 14 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 18:38 UTC 2006

"We had a miracle, and it was taken away from us."

A media mistake is a miracle?
tod
response 15 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 18:46 UTC 2006

I keep waiting to hear from the Rev.Phelps crowd...
happyboy
response 16 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 18:51 UTC 2006

/narrows eyes

 is yew saying they was a homo in that mine?
tod
response 17 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 18:51 UTC 2006

gawdhatesgayminers.com
happyboy
response 18 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 18:53 UTC 2006

"jesus told me to gut osha's budget!"
     ---g w bush
tod
response 19 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 19:01 UTC 2006

13 miners walk into a bar
it collapses
mcnally
response 20 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 00:03 UTC 2006

 I spent a good portion of yesterday in O'Hare airport, either
 walking from one terminal to another trying to find a flight with
 room for standby passengers, or sitting at gates where (as often
 as not) there was a television showing CNN.

 The amount of coverage being devoted to the miscommunication of the
 miners' status was truly mind-boggling..  What was particularly
 upsetting about it was that the same footage and interviews, which
 were almost totally free of useful information to begin with, were
 repeated over and over, ad nauseam.

 Meanwhile, in Washington, one of the most powerful (and most corrupt)
 political lobbyists in the nation, who has strong financial ties to
 dozens of Republican and a few Democratic lawmakers, who has extremely
 close and complicated ties to the currently-under-indictment ex-speaker-
 of-the-House, has reached a plea agreement with the Justice Department
 in exchange for testimony against an unknown number of legislators.
 The Abramoff plea bargain has the potential to blow Washington corruption
 wide open, though it's unlikely it'll go that far.  It's still an
 incredible story, full of fascinating back-room deals, blatant swindles
 and influence peddling, all kinds of juicy stuff.  But you'd be lucky to
 catch a 15-second video clip of Abramoff's perp-walk on CNN, they're too
 busy interviewing some miner's step-father about whether or not he thinks
 it was a bad thing that his son got trapped in the mine..  Yikes.
tod
response 21 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 00:22 UTC 2006

They stole our miracle!
klg
response 22 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 03:29 UTC 2006

Let's see.  What, according to news reports, has Abramoff admitted to?

Getting something inserted into the Congressional Record.  (Horrors!)

Asking a congressman to introduce legislation.  (Double Horrors!)

Asking a congressman to support certain legislation.  (Triple Horrors!)

Giving campaign contributions.  (A Cardinal Sin!)


If that is what he did, then all lobbyists in Washington ought to  be
fearful that they, too, will be indicted for  . . . . . . . . . 
lobbying.
cyklone
response 23 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 03:49 UTC 2006

Those were some pretty fucking creative campaign contributions. I'm sure 
you'll throw out some red herring about Soros and MoveOn.com but the rest 
of us will understand the clear distinction between the two.
marcvh
response 24 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 04:30 UTC 2006

Yup, he plead guilty even though he didn't do anything wrong.  Apparently
he's really stupid.  Why do self-respecting Republicans hang out with such
idiots?
mcnally
response 25 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 04:39 UTC 2006

 re #22:  No doubt he's returning $25M to his clients and paying the IRS
 $1.7M out of the kindness of his heart.
klg
response 26 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 11:39 UTC 2006

If you will note, #20 makes absolutely no mention of that, does it?
johnnie
response 27 of 35: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 16:52 UTC 2006

"Asking a congressman...".  Yes, "asking", as in, "Would you be willing
to do such-and-such in exchange for this envelope full of cash?" 
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