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jaklumen
response 3 of 17: Mark Unseen   Apr 22 01:12 UTC 2002

resp:1 They are not really *my* generalizations-- quite a few of them 
are based on comments, quotes, and such made by other musician friends 
of mine.  And you don't have to be interested; I'm just trying to 
round out the music cf again, since it has been mostly about folk and 
Napster et al items lately.

I almost forgot the piano, yes.  (It was late when I posted.. what did 
you want?)  I'm not sure what pianist personalities are like, but I 
remember how competitive and elitist the performance arena is; which 
is typical of popular instruments such as the trumpet, flute, drums, 
etc.

Technically, the piano is a percussionist instrument, so percussion 
students do cover it a bit more perhaps than others, if only in 
experimental applications.  Often these are mallet students 
(vibraphone, marimba, xylophone, bells, etc.).  More often than not, 
however, the piano is its own category.  Yet I also see similar 
personalities in electronic and MIDI applications for keyboard 
instruments.. and the more complex and involved in the studio they 
are, the more pensive and deep they seem to be. 

I have not met enough students of the organ to make any generalized 
comment.

resp:2  Ouch.  Well, I would imagine the violist would probably be the 
one most likely to chuckle good-naturedly.
flem
response 4 of 17: Mark Unseen   Apr 22 16:48 UTC 2002

I'm surprised that your generalization of violinists was as gentle as it was.
dbratman
response 5 of 17: Mark Unseen   Apr 22 21:43 UTC 2002

This is far from the first time I've seen such a categorization.  I 
wonder why musicians are so interested in this?  In high school, I 
tried to figure out if there were personality or other traits of 
teachers by what subject they taught, but no teacher I mentioned this 
to found the matter at all interesting or relevant.  Very different 
from musicians; too bad I didn't mention it to a music teacher.
cyklone
response 6 of 17: Mark Unseen   Apr 23 01:36 UTC 2002

In rock bands, the singers tend to be extroverts, the guitarists introverts,
and the drummers are maniacs. Bassists tend to be introspective, mostly
because they have to listen to everything, and be the glue between the
rhythmic and harmony. I agree witht he comment about quirky senses of humor,
too. The biggest egos tend to be singers and guitarists. Of course, I have
also played in bands where these descriptions did not apply.
jaklumen
response 7 of 17: Mark Unseen   Apr 23 06:16 UTC 2002

resp:4  I do not know many violinists, although some folks I've talked 
to suggested they were stuck up pricks.

resp:6  That's about what I've heard and seen.

It must be remembered that those who play multiple instruments will 
fit in multiple categories, and probably comprise some of the folks 
where descriptions don't apply.  I knew a prof who was Vienna-trained 
in directing, and he played viola and trombone.  It spoke quite 
reflectively of his personality.

Of course, directors, too, are personalities unto themselves, 
especially when the training has been long and significant.

I do remember a friend of mine who was a horn player and a grad 
student in directing.  He was quite the opposite from the typical horn 
player stereotype.
other
response 8 of 17: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 02:46 UTC 2002

The predominant perception that violas are larger than violins has been 
proven false.  It turns out that violas merely appear larger because 
violinists' have big heads.
jaklumen
response 9 of 17: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 07:22 UTC 2002

*laughs*
tpryan
response 10 of 17: Mark Unseen   May 23 23:50 UTC 2002

        I think cycklone just described Dr. Teeth and the Electric mayhem.
jaklumen
response 11 of 17: Mark Unseen   May 24 05:18 UTC 2002

Well, yeah, but then we identified with Dr. Teeth and the Electric 
Mayhem because they *were* based a little on rock stereotypes.
coyote
response 12 of 17: Mark Unseen   Jul 3 03:20 UTC 2002

As a horn player, here's how I view our instrument's affiliated personality:

I'll agree that their tends to be a certain ego that goes along with the
horn... however, I'll greatly disagree that it exceeds that of trumpet
players.  Nothing exceeds the ego of a trumpeter, except possibly the egos
of some violinists, but there is much more diversity in violin
personalities than in trumpet personalities.  Horn players tend to be
perfectionists. They tend to be competitive.  They tend to be very
opinionated and fairly blunt and up-front with their opinions.  They
tend to be moody and mercurial with their moods.  I'll disagree with that
lack of patience part, since there's no way to survive on this beast of an
instrument without an extreme degree of patience.  I'll agree with
neurotic, but almost every musician I know has some sort of neurosis.

Maybe the fact that I'm lacking in some of these traits contributes to the
fact that I'm only a mediocre horn player.
jaklumen
response 13 of 17: Mark Unseen   Jul 3 09:37 UTC 2002

Your mileage just varies, then.  But your assessment-- self-assessment, 
even, echoes much of what I've heard, including that the horn is 
difficult to play.

But then, the evil thought of "well, of course the horn player would 
claim to be humbler than the trumpets and violinists!" went through my 
head, too.

I knew a horn player who did not fit the stereotype at all.  It must 
have been that he was a grad student in conducting. 
albaugh
response 14 of 17: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 01:22 UTC 2002

Your #0 was interesting to read.  I can't buy into any of it, I'm afraid to
say!  ;-)  The *real* clowns of any concert band are the percussionists, hands
down.  Here's the ole joke:

Those that can sing, do.
Those that can't are given an instrument.
Those that can't play are given 2 sticks and a drum.
Those that can't drum have 1 stick taken away and stand on the podium.  ;-)
jaklumen
response 15 of 17: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 09:10 UTC 2002

Oh, that makes sense.  You have some percussionists that are clowny, 
given that they have so many "goodies" to play with.  But you must 
admit some real brooding types are there, too.
dbratman
response 16 of 17: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 22:40 UTC 2002

Never seen anyone stand on the podium with a drum, pa-dum.
jaklumen
response 17 of 17: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 04:43 UTC 2002

Ummm.. have you seen some conductors and the way they tap on their 
podiums?  They might as well be making some music if they weren't 
instead calling attention to themselves.
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