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Grex > Helpers > #138: Grex System Problems - Winter 2004/2005 |  |
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rksjr
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response 299 of 870:
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Jan 8 18:03 UTC 2005 |
Re. #119: remmers wrote:
"Got to oldgrex and looked;"
How does one get to oldgrex?
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cross
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response 300 of 870:
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Jan 8 20:54 UTC 2005 |
This response has been erased.
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gelinas
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response 301 of 870:
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Jan 9 00:33 UTC 2005 |
I don't know why ftp wasn't working before, but is now:
] Respond, pass, forget, quit, or ? for more options? !ftp ftp.slackware.com
] Connected to ftp.slackware.com.
] 220 207.173.172.131 FTP server ready
] Name (ftp.slackware.com:gelinas): ^C!
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] Respond, pass, forget, quit, or ? for more options?
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tsty
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response 302 of 870:
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Jan 9 08:49 UTC 2005 |
ftp to grex and (binary) get seems to have *really* screwed up ...
staff has mail ....
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keesan
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response 303 of 870:
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Jan 9 15:07 UTC 2005 |
ftp to ftp.slackware.com works but I am trying to use lynx
lynx ftp.slackware.com
That still does not work. I will try to figure out how to
use straight ftp (login anonymous password Enter?).
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keesan
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response 304 of 870:
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Jan 9 15:09 UTC 2005 |
login anonymous, enter your complete email address as password, worked.
But ls does not work - Entering extended something-or-other mode.
It is easier to fetch files with lynx/google from anonymous sites like this.
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sholmes
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response 305 of 870:
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Jan 9 16:39 UTC 2005 |
Its even easier using 'wget'. .dunno if its instaled here.
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keesan
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response 306 of 870:
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Jan 9 17:39 UTC 2005 |
I think my problem with not being able to using kermit file transfer between
sdf and here is that I was telnetted to grex at the time. Just now I was able
to dial in to grex (with kermit) and then ssh to sdf and then do a kermit file
transfer and amazingly the file did not get renamed L12344.htm but kept its
original name and ended up not at grex but at my own computer. Lovely!
In order to fetch a file with wget I would first need to use lynx or links
or w3m and do a google search to find the file name and path, then exit the
browser to use w3m (or at least shell out of it). Simpler to download the
file with the browser so I hope this can be fixed.
If I am telnetted to grex I guess I will just have to use ftp to move files
from sdf to grex. Instead of having to exit my telnet connection to do this
I can use the 'screen' program which lets me do several things at once at grex
such as telnet in one screen and ftp in the other. (Or if I am using linux
instead of DOS to telnet in the first place I can ftp from another linux
terminal). It will still be nice to get lynx working again at ftp sites but
there are a lot of ways around this. The large email problem should certainly
be attacked first for the benefit of the grexer who complained of getting
several a day and having to empty the inbox several times a day.
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rcurl
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response 307 of 870:
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Jan 9 18:50 UTC 2005 |
For what it's worth...I found that grex now requires sftp-2.
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keesan
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response 308 of 870:
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Jan 10 03:24 UTC 2005 |
What is sftp?
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gelinas
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response 309 of 870:
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Jan 10 03:28 UTC 2005 |
SecureFileTransferProtocol. It encrypts the transfer session.
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blaise
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response 310 of 870:
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Jan 10 04:03 UTC 2005 |
ftp.slackware.com is not an HTTP site, so to access it through lynx you need
to use a complete URI -- ftp://ftp.slackware.com.
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keesan
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response 311 of 870:
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Jan 10 04:24 UTC 2005 |
I can type lynx ftp.slackware.com at my shell account at sdf.lonestar.org and
it works. Here it does not work, nor does it work to click on a link to the
site from another site. I don't recall having this problem at old grex.
Thanks to whoever fixed the pine settings so that it now asks again whether
to forward a message as an attachment so I can answer N and edit it first.
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keesan
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response 312 of 870:
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Jan 10 04:25 UTC 2005 |
lynx ftp://ftp.slackware.com gave me the same result as without the
ftp://. Unable to access ftp site. Perhaps it only works for staff?
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keesan
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response 313 of 870:
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Jan 10 04:29 UTC 2005 |
links ftp.slackware.com at sdf - connects immediately.
Here at grex 'No route to host'.
w3m is taking forever here and at sdf so I stopped waiting. Odd.
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gelinas
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response 314 of 870:
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Jan 10 04:31 UTC 2005 |
It doesn't work for me, either. Now, a question: why use a web browser when
something designed for the job, to wit, ftp, is available?
That's a lot like using a spoon to cut something while holding a knife is in
your other hand.
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twenex
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response 315 of 870:
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Jan 10 04:33 UTC 2005 |
Because M$ has managed to convince everyone that the Windows philosophy* works
better than the Unix philosophy?
*To wit: Do a zillion things, and do them as badly and inflexibly as possible.
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jep
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response 316 of 870:
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Jan 10 05:19 UTC 2005 |
There are two secure general purpose file transfer protocols:
ftps or ftp-ssh -- Plain old FTP over a secure connection
sftp -- a new protocol with an unfortunate name that makes it sound
like it's FTP, but it's not. Other than the name, it has nothing to
do with FTP.
I'd thought all of the free world had agreed to have nothing to do
with sftp. However, my knowledge of these two protocols does not go
far beyond what I have written in this response.
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tod
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response 317 of 870:
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Jan 10 06:48 UTC 2005 |
re #314
Some of us like to use cursors rather than type a command for every detail.
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sholmes
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response 318 of 870:
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Jan 10 07:03 UTC 2005 |
not really a problem but the Grex Faq says it's running SunOs.
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gelinas
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response 319 of 870:
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Jan 10 12:09 UTC 2005 |
Yeah, updating the web pages is on my list of things started.
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davel
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response 320 of 870:
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Jan 10 13:21 UTC 2005 |
OK, I tried fronttalk. Because I'd just read stuff with picospan, there was
nothing new to read. So I tried "read since 1/9" (and subsequently "read since
1/9/2005"), and it gave me errors 'Don't understand "/9"' and 'Don't understand
"/9/2005"' (respectively). After the errors, it jumped me into the middle (!)
of old stuff (item 1 response 118), for some reason.
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gelinas
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response 321 of 870:
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Jan 10 13:28 UTC 2005 |
When I tried "read since 1/9/2005", it gave the error Dave reports but took
me to the beginning of item 1. When I tried "read since jan 9 2005", it
took me first to item 9 and then item 1.
I suppose we should read the ft help.
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twenex
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response 322 of 870:
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Jan 10 14:27 UTC 2005 |
Re: #314. Those models are still around, they have their uses.
Any movement on the problem I've reported twice yet?
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petercon
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response 323 of 870:
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Jan 10 14:39 UTC 2005 |
resp:298 Thanks - mc works great!
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